Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis

[etidorhpa]

Ìå ôçí åõêáéñéá ôçò äçìïóéåõóçò ôïõ ðñùôïõ ìïõ áñèñïõ óôï forum,èåëù íá áðåõèõíù óå ïëïõò ôïõò áäåëöïõò-åò êáé öéëïõò-åò ôçò ÁÌÑÁ,ôçí áãáðç ìïõ êáé ôçí åõ÷ç ç ÁÌÑÁ íá áðëùóåé ãåñá ôéò ñéæåò ôçò óôçí Åëëçíéêç åóùôåñéêç êïéíïôçôá êáé ìå ôçí âïçèåéá ôùí áäåëöùí íá óçêùèåé åùò ôïí Ïõñáíï..
Åðéóçò èá çèåëá éäéáéôåñá íá åõ÷áñéóôçóù ôçí Rose_777 ãéá ôçí åõãåíéêç ôçò "õðïäï÷ç".
Çèåëá íá èåóù õð'ïøç óáò ôçí ðáñáðáíù "áäåëöïôçôá" ç ïðïéá åðåóå óôçí áíôßëçøç ìïõ êáôá ôõ÷ç,øá÷íïíôáò óôï ebay ãéá êáðïéåò ðáëéåò åêäïóåéò.
Ãéá ïðïéïí/á èåëåé íá äåé:  www.soul.org..
Ðåñéëçðôéêá íá ðù ïôé éó÷õñéæïíôáé ïôé åéíáé:"The Authentic Rosicrucian Fraternity in the Americas and the Isles of the Sea",ïóï ãéá ôï éóôïñéêï ôïõò (ðïõ çôáí êáé áõôï ðïõ ìå åâáëå óôï øáîéìï),ôï ðñùôï Õðáôï Óõìâïõëéï,áðïôåëåéôï áðï:Benjamin Franklin, George Clymer and Thomas Paine..
Êáôáëçãïíôáò ìå áñêåôá âéâëéá áðï ôçí åêäïôéêç ôïõò åôáéñåéá (Philosophical Publishing),ãñáììåíá áðï ôïí R.S. CLYMER,áíáìåóá óôá ðïëëá "Åñìçôéêá/Ôåêôïíéêá (åéäéêá ðåñé Áéãõðôéáêïõ Ôåêôïíéóìïõ)/Êáìðáëá êáé ãåíéêá Ñïäïóôáõñéêá" ìå åêðëçîç äéáâáóá ãéá ôá "Manisis Chronicles".
(http://www.soul.org/Americas%20Invasion.html).
Óõìöùíá ìå ôçí áäåëöïôçôá,åéíáé ïé ìïíïé ðïõ å÷ïõí óôïí êïóìï áõôá ôá êåéìåíá,ãñáììåíá ìõèéóôïñçìáôéêá
êáé "åêðïñåõïìåíá" áðï ôïí Manisis (Man-Isis-??),ï ïðïéïò êáé åéíáé ôï åðïìåíï Avatar ìåôá ôïí "Christos",
ï ïðïéïò ïìùò äåí åêáíå ãíùóôç ôçí ðáñïõóéá ôïõ óôïõò áíèñùðïõò (!!) êáé ðñïôéìçóå íá äùóåé ôá öùôá ôïõ ìå ðéï "low profile" ôñïðï..
Ôá êåéìåíá êáíïõí ëïãï åðéóçò ãéá ôçí åðéêåéìåíç "åéóâïëç" ðïõ èá ãéíåé óôéò ÇÐÁ.êáé ôï óõíäåïõí ìå ôéò ôñïìïêñáôéêåò åðéèåóåéò ôçò 09/11 êáé ôï ïñáìá ôïõ George Washington.!!
Åíäéáöåñïõóá åéíáé ç "åóùôåñéêç" ìáôéá ðïõ å÷ïõí,áíáëõïíôáò ôï ãéáôé ç Áìåñéêç áðï ôçí "Íåïðëáôùíéêç"
êïéíùíéá ðïõ ïé ðñùôïé öùôéóìåíïé çãåôåò çèåëáí íá åãêáèéäñõóïõí (ðïëëá âéâëéá õðáñ÷ïõí ó÷åôéêá ìå ôçí ìõóôéêç Áìåñéêç),êáôåëçîå íá åéíáé ç ÷ùñá ðïõ ìéóåé ïëïò ï êïóìïò..êáé ç ôñïìåñç áéôéïëïãçóç åéíáé ïôé óôïí Ðáëáéï Êïóìï (Åõñùðç êõñéùò),æïõí ìåñéêåò áðï ôéò ðéï ðáëéåò øõ÷åò,ðïõ äåí å÷ïõí äõíáìç íá ïäçãçóïõí ôïõò ëáïõò óå åíá íåï "äéáöùôéóìï",ìå áðïôåëåóìá íá åéíáé ãåìáôåò ìéóïò êáé æçëåéá (!!!) ãéá ôçí Áìåñéêç,ç ïðïéá óáí "Íåïò êïóìïò",êáôïéêåéôáé áðï íååò øõ÷åò,"ïñåîáôåò" ãéá äïõëåéá...!!!!
(Äçëáäç,ïôáí ìåôåíóáñêùíåôáé ìéá øõ÷ç,ãéíåôáé óå óùìá êáôïéêïõ ôçò éäéáò ÷ùñáò?? ç ôçò éäéáò çðåéñïõ??!!!!)
Íáé..êáé åìåíá ìïõ åêáíå åíôõðùóç,êáé ìïõ èõìéóå "áëëåò" êáôáóôáóåéò ðïõ ðåñéåãñáöå ç Rose_777 ãéá ôï AMORC..Ìåôá âåâáéá óêåöôçêá,ïôé ìåôá ôéò ôñïìïêñáôéêåò åðéèåóåéò êáé ïëç áõôç ôçí êáôáêñáõãç ôùí ÇÐÁ äéåèíùò,ëéãç ôïíùóç ôïõ çèéêïõ ôïõ áðëïõ êïóìïõ åéíáé áíáìåíïìåíç.Ðéóôåõù ïìùò ïôé ïé áíèñùðïé ðïõ áó÷ïëïõíôáé ìå ôïí Åóùôåñéóìï,åéíáé (ç ðñåðåé íá èåëïõí íá åéíáé) Ôá ðéï áíïé÷ôá ìõáëá,÷ùñéò ðáñùðéäåò,êáé íá êáôáëáâáéíïõí ôïóï "ðñïöáíç" øåììáôá..
Áí îåñåé êáíåéò ðåñéóóïôåñá ãéá áõôç ôçí áäåëöïôçôá ç èåëåé íá ìå ñùôçóåé êáôé,åéìáé óôç äéáèåóç ôïõ..áîéæåé ðáíôùò íá äåéôå ôï site..
+n-

[ÏñöÝáò]

    Êáëþò üñéóåò áäåëöÝ óôçí êïéíüôçôÜ ìáò. Åßíáé åîü÷ùò åõ÷Üñéóôï íá óõíáíôÜò óôçí äéáäñïìÞ áíÞóõ÷á ðíåýìáôá ðïõ Ý÷ïõí åéëéêñéíÜ áðïöáóßóåé íá âáäßóïõí ôï äýóêïëï äñüìï ôçò áíáæÞôçóçò ôçò áëÞèåéáò. Áêüìá ðéï åõ÷Üñéóôï ìÜëëéóôá, åßíáé ôï ãåãïíüò üôé äéáðíÝïíôáé áðü ãíÞóéåò åóùôåñéóôéêÝò áñ÷Ýò, áðü áîßåò êáé éäáíéêÜ, üíôåò áíõóôåñüâïõëïé.

    Åßíáé áðü ôçí Üëëç åîü÷ùò ëõðçñü ôï ãåãïíüò ôïõ åõôåëéóìïý ôùí éåñþí äéäáóêáëéþí êáé ôùí óåðôþí ìõóôçñßùí áðü áõôüêëçôåò  áõôïáðïêáëïýìåíåò äÞèåí åóùôåñéêÝò ïñãáíþóåéò, ïé ïðïßåò ðÝñá áðü ôçí óêïðïýìåíç åêìåôÜëëåõóç ôùí èõìÜôùí ôïõò, äõóôõ÷þò Ý÷ïõí ãåëïéïðïéÞóåé ôçí åóùôåñéêÞ áíáæÞôçóç êáé Ý÷ïõí õðïâáèìßóåé ïéêôñÜ ôçí óçìáíôéêüôçôá êáé áîßá ôùí ìõçôéêþí ìõóôçñßùí óôá ìÜôéá ôùí áíáæçôçôþí.

    ÐåñíÜìå óõíïëéêÜ ùò áíèñùðüôçôá, ìéá ðïëý äýóêïëç ðåñßïäï êñßóçò, üðïõ ïé áîßåò åõôåëßæïíôáé, ôá éäáíéêÜ ðïäïðáôïýíôáé, ôá óåðôÜ éåñÜ âåâçëþíïíôáé êáé ïé éåñïß ëüãïé ìéáßíïíôáé. Áðü ôçí Üëëç, áõôÞ ç ßäéá ç æïöåñÞ óýã÷ñïíç ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá, ìáò äßíåé ôï äéêáßùìá íá åëðßæïõìå üôé Þäç îåêßíçóå ç ìåôáâáôéêÞ ðåñßïäïò, êáôÜ ôçí ïðïßá ç áíèñùðüôçôá èá îáíááíáêáëýøåé ôçí ÷áìÝíç ôçò áîéïðñÝðåéá êáé èá åðáíÝëèåé óýíôïìá óôçí ïäü ôçò ðñïïäåõôéêÞò ôçò áíÝëéîçò.

    Óôçí óçìåñéíÞ åðï÷Þ ôçò áëëáãÞò ôïõ ÌåãÜëïõ Ìçíüò êáé ôçò åéóüäïõ ìáò óôïí Õäñï÷üï, ôá åëðéäïöüñá ìõíÞìáôá ôçò ñáãäáßáò áíÜðôõîçò ôçò çëåêôñïíéêÞò ôå÷íïëïãßáò, óõíïäåõüìåíá áðü ôéò áíèñùðéóôéêÝò áîßåò, ôçí êïéíïíéêÞ éóüôçôá êáé ôçí áíåìðüäéóôç åîÜðëùóç ôçò ãíþóçò ôçò áëÞèåéáò, ìáò ÷áñïðïéïýí áðü ôçí ìéá, áëëÜ áðü ôçí Üëëç ìáò õðåíèõìßæïõí ôï ôåñÜóôéï êáèÞêïí ðïõ Ý÷ïõìå, þóôå íá åñãáóôïýìå ãéá ôçí åðßôåõîç ôçò ìåãÜëçò áõôÞò áëëáãÞò.

    Áíáãêáßá óõíèÞêç ãéá íá åðÝëèåé ç åõáããåëéæüìåíç åðï÷Þ ôïõ Õäñï÷üïõ, åßíáé ç áðïêÜëõøç êÜèå ðëÜíçò, êÜèå øåõäïýò êáé áðáôçëÞò öáíôáóßùóçò, êÜèþò êáé ôï ãêñÝìéóìá êÜèå óáèñïý äåóðïôéêïý äïãìáôéóìïý êáé êÜèå áíåëåýèåñïõ êáôåóôçìÝíïõ.

[Rose]

ÁãáðçôÝ etidorhpa,

èá Þèåëá íá óå êáëùóïñßóù êáé åãþ ìå ôçí óåéñÜ ìïõ, óôï öüñïõì ìáò.  ×áéñüìáóôå éäéáßôåñá üôáí áäåëöïß, ôéìïýí ìå ôçí ðáñïõóßá ôïõò, êáé ôçí óõìâïëÞ ôïõò ôïí ðíåõìáôéêü áãþíá ðïõ êÜíïõìå ìÝóù ôçò ÁÌÑÁ.

'Ïóïí áöïñÜ ôçí www.soul.org, äåí Ý÷ù ðñïóùðéêÞ Üðïøç, ìéá êáé äåí õðÞñîá ðïôÝ ìÝëïò áõôÞò ôçò ïñãÜíùóçò.  Áõôü ðïõ ðáñáôÞñçóá üìùò åßíáé ï ÷ñéóôéáíéêüò óôáõñüò, üôé áíáöÝñïíôáé óôïõò ÷ñéóôéáíïýò ñïäüóôáõñïõò, êáé åðßóçò äéáöçìßæïõí êÜðïéåò ðñïöçôåßåò... ÁõôÜ ôá óôïé÷åßá äåí åßíáé äåßãìáôá áõèåíôéêÞò ñïäïóôáõñéêÞò áäåëöüôçôáò.

Ôï áõèåíôéêü ñïäïóôáõñéêü óýìâïëï, üðùò ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýìå êáé óôçí ÁÌÑÁ, åßíáé ï éóïóêåëÞò óôáõñüò ìå ôï ñüäï, ðïõ áíáöÝñåôáé óôï ðáíèåúóôéêü, Åõñùðáúêü, ìçôñéáñ÷éêü êßíçìá, ðñéí ôçí äéÜäïóç ôïõ ÷ñéóôéáíéóìïý.  ÁíáöÝñåôáé óôá 4 óôïé÷åßá êáé óôçí ðåìðôïõóßá.  Åêåß âáóßæåôáé ôï Ñïäïóôáõñéêü êßíçìá, üðùò Ý÷ïõìå áíáöÝñåé êáé ðáëéüôåñá óôï öüñïõì ìáò, êáé ü÷é óôéò ìåôÝðåéôá ÷ñéóôéáíéêÝò áíôéëÞøåéò ðïõ óýíäåóáí ôï Ñüäï ìå ôïí ×ñéóôü...

Ôï Ñüäï åßíáé èçëõêü óýìâïëï êáé äåí ìðïñåß íá óõíäåèåß ìå Ýíáí Üíäñá... Äõóôõ÷þò áðü áõôÝò ôéò ðáñáðïéÞóåéò ôùí óõìâüëùí, Ý÷ïõí ðáñïõóéÜóåé êáé Ýíáí èçëõðñåðÞ ×ñéóôü, ìå áðïôÝëåóìá, ðïëëïß ìïíá÷ïß íá åßíáé ïìïöõëüöéëïé... Áí èÝëïõìå áðáñáéôÞôùò íá óõíäÝóïõìå ôï Ñüäï ìå êÜðïéï ÷ñéóôéáíéêü óýìâïëï, èá ðñÝðåé íá ôï óõíäÝóïõìå ìå ôçí Ðáíáãßá.

Åðßóçò ï Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò óõó÷åôßæåôáé ìå ôçí Áë÷çìåßá, ôçí ÊáìðÜëá êáé ôá ÅñìçôéêÜ, êáé áí ìßá ïñãÜíùóç äåí Ý÷åé ãíþóç óôéò ðáñáðÜíù äéäáóêáëßåò, äåí ìðïñïýìå íá ôçí áðïêáëÝóïõìå ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ. 

¼óïí áöïñÜ ãéá ôéò ðñïöçôåßåò, ôåßíïõí ðñïò ôçí èñçóêåéïëïãßá, êáé ìåéþíïõí ôçí õðüëçøç ìéáò ïñãÜíùóçò.  ÖõóéêÜ ìðïñïýìå íá ðñïöçôåýóïõìå ùò Ýíá óçìåßï ôé ìðïñåß íá óõìâåß óôï ìÝëëïí, áëëÜ ôï ìÝëëïí åßíáé åýðëáóôï, êáé áñêåß íá ôï èåëÞóïõìå, ìðïñïýìå íá óõìâÜëëïõìå Ýôóé þóôå íá ôï áëëÜîïõìå...  Áí ëïéðüí ïñãáíùèïýìå êáé åíåñãïðïéçèïýìå ïé Üíèñùðïé ôçò êÜèå êïéíùíßáò Þ üëçò ôçò ïéêïõìÝíçò ìðïñïýìå íá áëëÜîïõìå ôá ðÜíôá, üóï ðåñíÜåé áðü ôï ÷Ýñé ìáò. 

Ãéá ðáñÜäåéãìá, ç ÁÌÑÁ, åêôüò áðü ôçí äéäáóêáëéêÞ ôçò, ðíåõìáôéêÞ äñÜóç, èá õëïðïéÞóåé ìåëëïíôéêÜ, äéÜöïñá áíèñùðéóôéêÜ Ýñãá, ðïõ âïçèÜí ôï ðåñéâÜëëïí ìáò, üðùò áíáäáóþóåéò.  Ôá ôåëåõôáßá 100 ÷ñüíéá ç äáóùìÝíç Ýêôáóç óôçí ÅëëÜäá ðïõ Ýöôáíå ôï 60%, Ý÷åé êáôáëÞîåé ìüëéò 12%, êáé öõóéêÜ, ìðïñïýìå üóïé åðéèõìïýìå íá óõíåñãáóôïýìå óå åðéäïôïýìåíá ðñïãñÜììáôá, íá âïçèÞóïõìå ôçí ÷þñá ìáò, êáé íá ìåéþóïõìå ôáõôü÷ñïíá êáé ôçí áíåñãßá.

Äåí ÷ñåéÜæåôáé ëïéðüí íá óôçñéæüìáóôå óå ðñïöçôåßåò... Óßãïõñá ÷ñåéáæüìáóôå êÜðïéåò åðéóôçìïíéêÝò ðñïâëÝøåéò, ðÜíù óôá êïéíùíéêÜ, ðïëéôéóôéêÜ, êáé ðåñéâáëëïíôïëïãéêÜ èÝìáôá, áëëÜ ýóôåñá ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá âÜëëïõìå ôçí ëïãéêÞ êáé ôçí áíèñùðéÜ ìáò, Ýôóé þóôå íá óõíåñãáóôïýìå êÜðïéïé áðü åìÜò êáé íá õëïðïéÞóïõìå ôá Ýñãá ðïõ ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá õëïðïéçèïýí óå üëá ôá åðßðåäá Ýôóé þóôå ç êïéíùíßá ìáò êáé êáô' åðÝêôáóç üëç ç áíèñùðüôçôá íá åõçìåñÞóåé.

[Rose]

Ç www.soul.org, áíáöÝñåé ðùò åßíáé ìßá ÁõèåíôéêÞ ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ Áäåëöüôçôá, êáé ðáñïõóéÜæåé êÜðïéïõò êáíüíåò ðïõ ôï áðïäåéêíýïõí.  Ôïõò ðáñáèÝôïõìå ðáñáêÜôù, (óôá áããëéêÜ) Ýôóé þóôå íá ôïõò áíáëýóïõìå êáé íá ôïõò ó÷ïëéÜóïõìå.

http://www.soul.org/Warning.html

Warning of Spiritual Fraud

The web page and chart room called the "Wisdom of the Rosy Cross" (found at http://www.hometown.aol.com/magic1808) contains a link to our home page. This link has absolutely no implication that there is an association or affilation with "Wisdom of the Rosy Cross" its statements, chat room or any individual involved with them and the Fraternity Rosae Crucis. The individual(s) involved with "Wisdom of the Rosy Cross" are entitled to their opinion but we want to make it clear that it is no part of the Fraternity Rosae Crucis.

Some Vital Information for Your Spiritual Future

As one looking for information on the revered and venerated ancient Order of the Rosicrucians, we felt certain that you would find the following short history of this Order and its modern representation of value.

The original name of this Order was and is The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis. It was first instituted in Germany in 1614 and brought together into one organization the various associations of individuals known as the Gnostics, Paracelsians, Pythagoreans, Platonists, Hermetists, Alchemists and Magi. Since its inception it has been devoted to one objective and one objective only–The Process of the Spiritualization of the Individual.

The Order was from its beginning a Sub Rosa organization. It remained as such until the early part of the twentieth century when it was forced to come out from "under the rose" to defend itself from spurious organizations that attempted to usurp the name Rosicrucian for less than spiritual or humanitarian purposes. Litigation was brought against the pretenders and they were forced to admit to all that they were "not a religious organization." The Beverly Hall Corporation, the legal entity that manages the affairs of The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis (under its four-hundred-year-old landmarks, The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis must remain purely Spiritual in nature and therefore is not allowed to register as a legal entity), is a religious organization and by the rigid standards of the Internal Revenue Service is determined to be a tax-exempt church.

In order to prevent such counterfeits in the future it was determined by the Great Councils of the Order that a physical home for The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis and its allied orders should be established in the Northeastern part of the United States of America. This was done some eighty-five years ago and this center, Beverly Hall, now consists of thirty-seven buildings and nearly three hundred acres of land in picturesque upper Bucks County, Pennsylvania. Many of these structures can be seen on this website and consist of various Temples for the Orders that now comprise The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis, a Grand Hall for the Knights of Chivalry Order, a new Magi Memorial Temple, the Philosophical Publishing Company building, a modern audio-video production studio and editing center, two medical Healing Research Centers, pyramids geographically related to those at Giza in Egypt, several facilities for student members to stay while attending the various instructional sessions held at Beverly Hall, similar live-in facilities for patients who come from all over the world to be treated at the healing centers, and finally, residences for our many co-workers.

Once Beverly Hall was fully implemented, there were no further challenges to The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis until late in the last century when it became necessary to expel four Fraternity members, two in the USA and two in Chile, for treasonous activities. This was the first time in the long unblemished history of the Order that such serious actions were necessary. Unfortunately, these banished individuals–without shame or regard for their sacred vows to the Order or their Soul–refused to return to The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis the private lessons, books and other materials that belonged to the Order, but which had been lent to them to use only while they were members of the Order in good standing.

We now find that these individuals are attempting to sell these contraband lessons over the Internet and by various other means of dissemination. The nature of these lessons and instruction is such that they are not only useless to those who are not under the careful guidance of a legitimate arcane teacher of The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis, but can actually be harmful without this guidance. These would-be spiritual merchants are like the legendary Sorcerer's Apprentice in that they have just enough knowledge of the Great Work to get themselves, and all who might fall into their web, into situations that can create severe jeopardy to both body and soul.

In this day and age it is easy to produce a seductive, professional looking web site that has all the outer appearance of authenticity, but that has no connection to the legitimate Order described above. However, the thoughtful and insightful seeker after spiritual truth is readily able to discern the diamond from the paste by comparing these attempts to confuse and defraud to the following facts:

1. The world center for the authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis is now centered in Quakertown, PA, USA. All the precious documents of the various Orders in other countries were brought to the United States by Dr. R. Swinburne Clymer just prior to the hostilities of World War II. They now reside in secret vaults on the grounds of Beverly Hall in Quakertown.

2. Following World War II and the demise of the European Orders, all authority for the activities of the legitimate Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis was likewise transferred to The See at Beverly Hall in Quakertown, PA. Since America is to be the center of the New Order of the Ages it is obvious that this land will also be the center from whence all Spiritual wisdom and knowledge will come from as well.

3. This worldwide Order is overseen by various Grand Councils with an individual traditionally known as the Supreme Grand Master as the head over all. The Supreme Court of the United States in case number 97-211 (10/14/97) upheld the decision of the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit attesting to the fact that the present Supreme Grand Master, and no other, is the only legitimate individual who may lay claim to this office as the official head of the Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis and all its many allied Orders. The various spurious groups on the web who claim similar authority are only vaporware with no valid or legal substantiation except the sound of their own voice.

4. For the last hundred-plus years all the advanced spiritual training given to students of the Great Work is mandated to be given by the authentic Supreme Grand Master. He, and only he, has been carefully and personally trained by his predecessor for this imposing task.

5. The Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis and Beverly Hall are physical entities–not virtual, web-only entities. They comprise nearly three hundred acres and thirty-seven buildings and are constantly expanding. We are told that some pretenders have photos on the web of buildings and meeting rooms that do not exist. Any sincere seeker after truth is always welcome to visit us and see for himself. You need only to call 1-215-536-7048 in advance for an appointment. None of the want-to-be's dare make this offer. Come and see the truth for yourself.

6. The authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis has never requested dues or ongoing payment from its students. The student pays a modest scholarship fee (which barely covers a lifetime of postage) when applying and that is all. Even this fee may be paid in small monthly installments without carrying charges.

7. The authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis never attempts to establish a "cult of the individual." The student is never encouraged or forced to vow allegiance to any individual or personality. Just the opposite. The student is taught to show allegiance only to God, his Immortal Soul and his vow to protect the property lent to him by the Grand Fraternity.

8. In the authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis the student is encouraged to develop all his talents and spiritual abilities to the fullest. In the counterfeit organizations the student is frequently thwarted by the organizer for fear that he, the student, may advance further than this leader, and thus become a rival–both temporal and spiritual. To accomplish this end the bogus leader frequently uses fear, in its multitude of subtle aspects, to control and stymie the growth of his more accomplished students.

9. By its ancient landmarks the authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis is never allowed to actively proselytize or advertise for students. It may legitimately make the principles and tenets of the Order known through its books and dignified statements, such as this website, but no more. The ancient Law is, “Those who know do not talk, those who talk do not know.”

10. The authentic Fraternitas Rosæ Crucis has published hundreds of outer public texts for the edification of the general public. As you can see from our website's book list these are still available to those who may be interested. In America alone this publishing of guides and textbooks by our Order has been continued for over one hundred and fifty years. No counterfeit organization can even come close to making this statement.

__________________________________________________________________________________________
Ó÷üëéá: ÅëÜ÷éóôïé åíáó÷ïëïýìåíïé ìå ôïí Ñïäïóôáõñéóìü, åßôå óôçí ÷þñá ìáò, åßôå óôï åîùôåñéêü, ãíùñßæïõìå ðùò ï Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò, êáé ôï êßíçìá ôïõ äéáöùôéóìïý óôçñßæåôáé óôçí Áñ÷áßá ÅëëçíéêÞ ìõçôéêÞ ðáñÜäïóç.  ¼ôáí áõôÞ ç Ãíþóç, êáôáíïçèåß êáé áðëùèåß, ôüôå üëåò áõôÝò ïé ïñãáíþóåéò, èá îåöôßóïõí ìéá êáé ç êÜëðéêç åéêüíá ôïõò äåí èá åíôõðùóéÜæåé ðëÝïí, ôïõò ãíþóôåò, áëëÜ ßóùò êÜðïéïõò åíáðïìåßíáíôåò áöåëåßò.  Ç Ãíþóç åßèå íá ìáò áðåëåõèåñþóåé.

[etidorhpa]

Ðåñá áðï ôá ðñïöáíùò áóôåéá åðé÷åéñçìáôá ôïõ óôõë: "Ôá êåéìåíá ïëùí ôùí áäåëöïôçôùí,ïëùí ôáí ÷ùñùí,öõëáóóïíôáé óôï êôéñéï ôïõ Beverly Hall,êáôïðéí åíôïëçò ôïõ Õðáôïõ Óõìâïõëéïõ,ðïõ áðïöáóéóå ïôé ôá êåíôñéêá åéíáé óôçí Pensylvania (ãéáôé?-ìáëëïí åêåé èá åìåíáí.. ),ðéóôåõù ïôé ôá õðïëïéðá ðïõ ëåíå ãéá ôçí õðïäïìç (êôéñéáêç êáé ïñãáíùóéáêç-ãíùóéáêç),åéíáé óùóôá..Éóùò íá ðñïêåéôáé ãéá ìéá áðï ôéò óïâáñåò áäåëöïôçôåò..Áõôï ðïõ äåí êáôáëáâáéíù,åéíáé ãéáôé ïëïé åíù áðï ôçí ìéá äéáêçññõóïõí ïôé äåí "ðñïóõëçôéæïõí" ìå êáíåíá ôñïðï,áãùíéæïíôáé íá áðïäåéîïõí ïôé áõôïé åéíáé ïé "áõèåíôéêïé" Ñïäïóôáõñïé..êáé íïìéæù ïôé áõôï åéíáé êáôé ðïõ ÷ñåéáæåôáé ðåñéóóïôåñç áíáëõóç..êáé åîçãù:
Ôé åãéíå áí äåí åéíáé ïé ìïíïé áõèåíôéêïé? Ç ÁËÇÈÅÉÁ åéíáé ìéá,áëëá ïé äñïìïé ãéá áõôçí ðïëëïé..
áñá êáôé ðéï õðïðôï êñõâåôáé ðéóù áðï ôçí äéåêäéêçóç ôïõ copyright,êáé å÷åé íá êáíåé ìáëëïí ìå ôï "ðëáóáñéóìá óôçí áãïñá" ôùí õðïøçöéùí íåïöõôùí...áëëá ðåñá áðï ôï ìáñêåôéíßóôéêï êïììáôé,õðáñ÷åé ìéá
ðïäïóöáéñéêç áíôéìåôùðéóç ðïõ åìåíá äåí ìïõ áñåóåé..(áõôïé åéíáé êáêïé-åìåéò åéìáóôå ïé êáëïé) êáé ðïõ ðéóôåõù ðùò ìéá Ñïäïóôáõñéêç ïìáäá,äåí ðñåðåé íá å÷åé.
Áõôç ç áíôéìåôùðéóç ðïõ áíôáðïêñéíåôáé óôï ðñùôïãåíåò ìáò åíóôéêôï êáé âãáæåé óôçí åðéöáíåéá ôç ãçéíç ðëåõñá ìáò,áó÷åôá áí ôï èåìá åéíáé ç ðáñáðáíù ïñãáíùóç,ôá Óêïðéá,ïé ïìïöõëïöéëïé(ôá áíáöåñù ÷ùñéò íá èåëù íá èéîù áðïøåéò,áðëá ãéáôé å÷ïõí áíáöåñèåé óôï forum).Ðéóôåõù ïôé óáí ìáèçôåò ôïõ Åóùôåñéóìïõ,ôï ðñùôï âçìá ðïõ ðñåðåé íá êáíïõìå (êáé åãù áêïìá åéìáé ðïëõ êáéíïõñãéïò),óôçí ìåôáìïñöùóç ìáò,åéíáé ôï íá áðáëëáãïõìå (óõíåéäçôá ïìùò),áðï åõêïëåò êáôçãïñéïðïéçóåéò êáé óôåãáíá,óôïí ôñïðï óêåøçò ìáò....Íá ìçí åéìáóôå åõêïëïé óôï íá áðïäïêéìáæïõìå...êáé íá ðñïóðáèïõìå íá ìçí êñéíïõìå ìå ôï âáñïò ôùí ãçéíùí áäõíáìéùí ìáò..

[Rose]

Ðéóôåõù ïôé óáí ìáèçôåò ôïõ Åóùôåñéóìïõ,ôï ðñùôï âçìá ðïõ ðñåðåé íá êáíïõìå (êáé åãù áêïìá åéìáé ðïëõ êáéíïõñãéïò),óôçí ìåôáìïñöùóç ìáò,åéíáé ôï íá áðáëëáãïõìå (óõíåéäçôá ïìùò),áðï åõêïëåò êáôçãïñéïðïéçóåéò êáé óôåãáíá,óôïí ôñïðï óêåøçò ìáò....Íá ìçí åéìáóôå åõêïëïé óôï íá áðïäïêéìáæïõìå...êáé íá ðñïóðáèïõìå íá ìçí êñéíïõìå ìå ôï âáñïò ôùí ãçéíùí áäõíáìéùí ìáò..

ÁãáðçôÝ Etidorpha,

ôï ðñþôï âÞìá ðïõ ðñÝðåé íá êÜíïõìå ùò ìáèçôÝò ôïõ Åóùôåñéóìïý, åßíáé íá ìÜèïõìå íá Ý÷ïõìå ÊÑÉÓÇ, êáé áõôü ãßíåôáé ìïíÜ÷á ãíùñßæïíôáò ôçí ÁëÞèåéá... Äåí ìðïñïýìå íá ôï ðáßæïõìå "øåõôï÷ñéóôéáíéêÜ" êáëïß, êáé ãéá íá ìçí èé÷ôïýí êÜðïéïé Üíèñùðïé Þ ïñãáíéóìïß, íá ðáñáðïéïýìå ôçí ÁëÞèåéá.

¼ðùò åßäåò óôçí ÁÌÑÁ, äåí ðñïóäïêïýìå óå ïéêïíïìéêÜ Þ Üëëïõ åßäïõò ïöÝëç... ËÝìå åëåýèåñá ôçí ãíþìç ìáò, êáé Ý÷ïõìå åðé÷åéñÞìáôá íá ôçí óôçñßîïõìå... 'Ïðïéïò äåí Ý÷åé åðé÷åéñÞìáôá, êáé íôïêïõìÝíôá, åßíáé Ýíáò ðéóôüò-èñÞóêïò, êáé ü÷é Ýíáò ãíþóôçò.

Ìßá ïñãÜíùóç ãéá íá áõôï-áðïêáëåßôáé ÁõèåíôéêÞ ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ Áäåëöüôçôá, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá ðëçñåß êÜðïéåò ðñïûðüèÝóåéò, êáé ïé ãíþóôåò ôïõ åóùôåñéóìïý Þ ôïõ Ñïäïóôáõñéóìïý, ìðïñïýí íá êáôáíïÞóïõí áí ï éó÷õñéóìüò ôïõò åßíáé âÜóéìïò. 'Ïëïé ïé ìïñöùìÝíïé Üíèñùðïé ôçò Åõñþðçò êáé ôçò ÅëëÜäïò, ãíùñßæïõí ðùò ï Äéáöùôéóìüò, åßíáé Ýíá ðñïúüí âáóéóìÝíï óôïí Åëëçíéóìü.  Ç ðáñáðÜíù áäåëöüôçôá áíáöÝñåôáé óå ìåóéáíéáêÝò áíôéëÞøåéò, äÝ÷åôáé ùò äéäÜóêáëï ôïí Éçóïý, êáé ïìïéÜæåé üðùò êáé ïé ðåñéóóüôåñåò óýã÷ñïíåò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÝò ïñãáíþóåéò, ìå íåï-÷ñéóôéáíéêÞ áßñåóç.

Óõìöùíá ìå ôçí áäåëöïôçôá,åéíáé ïé ìïíïé ðïõ å÷ïõí óôïí êïóìï áõôá ôá êåéìåíá,ãñáììåíá ìõèéóôïñçìáôéêá
êáé "åêðïñåõïìåíá" áðï ôïí Manisis (Man-Isis-??),ï ïðïéïò êáé åéíáé ôï åðïìåíï Avatar ìåôá ôïí "Christos",
ï ïðïéïò ïìùò äåí åêáíå ãíùóôç ôçí ðáñïõóéá ôïõ óôïõò áíèñùðïõò (!!) êáé ðñïôéìçóå íá äùóåé ôá öùôá ôïõ ìå ðéï "low profile" ôñïðï..

Ïé ìåóéáíéêÝò áíôéëÞøåéò, áíÞêïõí óôçí åðï÷Þ ôùí É÷èýùí.  Óôçí åðï÷Þ ôïõ Õäñï÷üïõ ðïõ äéáíýïõìå, äåí Ý÷ïõìå ôçí ðïëõôÝëåéá, íá óôçñé÷ôïýìå óå Üëëïõò ÓùôÞñåò, (ìðáìðÜäåò Þ ìáìÜäåò) íá ìáò óþóïõí... ×ñåéÜæåôáé íá áíáëÜâïõìå ôçí åõèýíç ôçò æùÞò ìáò, íá åíçëéêéùèïýìå ðíåõìáôéêÜ, íá ìïñöùèïýìå, êáé ýóôåñá íá óõíåñãáóôïýìå ìå ôïõò óõíáíèñþðïõò ìáò, Ýôóé þóôå íá ãßíïõìå óõíäçìéïõñãïß ìéáò åëåýèåñçò êáé åíÜñåôçò êïéíùíßáò. 

'Ïðïéá ïñãÜíùóç äéáêõñÞóåé ÌÅÓÓÉÅÓ, äåí åëåõèåñþíåé ôï Ðíåýìá, áëëÜ ÷ñéóôéáíéêÜ ôï õðïäïõëþíåé.  Ï êÜèå Üíèñùðïò ãéá íá ãßíåé ðíåõìáôéêÜ Åëåýèåñïò, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá ãßíåé ï ßäéïò Ìåóóßáò - ÓùôÞñáò ôïõ Åáõôïý ôïõ êáé êáô' åðÝêôáóç íá óõìâÜëëåé äçìéïõñãéêÜ êáé åìðíåõóôéêÜ óôçí êïéíùíßá ôïõ. 

[etidorhpa]

Áãáðçôç Rose_777,
 óõìöùíù,ç ÁÌÑÁ ãéá ìåíá çôáí ìéá áðï ôéò ðéï åõ÷áñéóôåò åêðëçîåéò ôçò ÷ñïíéáò.!!

Ïóï ãéá ôçí êñéóç,ÍÁÉ..öõóéêá êáé ðñåðåé íá åéíáé ïäçãïò ìáò,êáôù ïìùò áðï ôçí ðõîéäá ôçò ðñáãìáôéêçò Ãíùóçò.Áõôç èá ìáò ïäçãçóåé óôçí Áëçèåéá.Áëëá ìå÷ñé íá öôáóïõìå óôçí ðñáãìáôéêç Ãíùóç,áò êñáôáìå êáé ìéá åðéöõëáîç ãéá ôïí ôñïðï ðïõ âëåðïõìå ôá ðñáãìáôá..  Áõôï ðïõ èåëù íá ðù,ðïëõ áðëá, ìåóá áðï ïëåò áõôåò ôéò áöçñçìåíåò åííïéåò/óôï÷ïõò,åéíáé íá ìçí åéìáóôå áðïëõôïé..
+n-

[Rose]

Áõôï ðïõ èåëù íá ðù,ðïëõ áðëá, ìåóá áðï ïëåò áõôåò ôéò áöçñçìåíåò åííïéåò/óôï÷ïõò,åéíáé íá ìçí åéìáóôå áðïëõôïé..

Èá ÷áñþ ðïëý, áí ðáñïõóéáóôïýí åðé÷åéñÞìáôá ðïõ èá áðïäåéêíýïõí üôé ïé áðüøåéò ìïõ äåí åßíáé áëçèåßò... Åßíáé ìåãÜëç ç åõèýíç, üôáí èÝëåéò íá ðáñïõóéÜæåéò ôçí áëÞèåéá.  Óå êÜèåôé ðïõ ëÝìå, ðÜíôá êñéíüìáóôå, åßôå ôï èÝëïõìå, åßôå ü÷é.

[Rose]

Ôá êåéìåíá êáíïõí ëïãï åðéóçò ãéá ôçí åðéêåéìåíç "åéóâïëç" ðïõ èá ãéíåé óôéò ÇÐÁ.êáé ôï óõíäåïõí ìå ôéò ôñïìïêñáôéêåò åðéèåóåéò ôçò 09/11 êáé ôï ïñáìá ôïõ George Washington.!!
Åíäéáöåñïõóá åéíáé ç "åóùôåñéêç" ìáôéá ðïõ å÷ïõí,áíáëõïíôáò ôï ãéáôé ç Áìåñéêç áðï ôçí "Íåïðëáôùíéêç"
êïéíùíéá ðïõ ïé ðñùôïé öùôéóìåíïé çãåôåò çèåëáí íá åãêáèéäñõóïõí (ðïëëá âéâëéá õðáñ÷ïõí ó÷åôéêá ìå ôçí ìõóôéêç Áìåñéêç),êáôåëçîå íá åéíáé ç ÷ùñá ðïõ ìéóåé ïëïò ï êïóìïò..êáé ç ôñïìåñç áéôéïëïãçóç åéíáé ïôé óôïí Ðáëáéï Êïóìï (Åõñùðç êõñéùò),æïõí ìåñéêåò áðï ôéò ðéï ðáëéåò øõ÷åò,ðïõ äåí å÷ïõí äõíáìç íá ïäçãçóïõí ôïõò ëáïõò óå åíá íåï "äéáöùôéóìï",ìå áðïôåëåóìá íá åéíáé ãåìáôåò ìéóïò êáé æçëåéá (!!!) ãéá ôçí Áìåñéêç,ç ïðïéá óáí "Íåïò êïóìïò",êáôïéêåéôáé áðï íååò øõ÷åò,"ïñåîáôåò" ãéá äïõëåéá...!!!!

×ñåéÜæåôáé åðßóçò íá åßìáóôå ðïëý åðéöõëáêôéêïß ìå åóùôåñéêÝò ïñãáíþóåéò ðñïåñ÷üìåíåò áðü ôçí ÁìåñéêÞ, ôçí ÷þñá ôùí 3000 áéñÝóåùí... Óßãïõñá óå áñêåôÜ èÝìáôá ç ÁìåñéêÞ Ý÷åé ðñùôïðïñÞóåé áëëÜ óå Üëëá, åéäéêÜ èÝìáôá åóùôåñéóìïý, Ý÷åé áðëþóåé åðéêßíäõíåò öáíôáóéïðëçîßåò, êáé äåéóéäáéìïíßåò ðïõ áññùóôáßíïõí ôçí áíèñþðéíç óõíåßäçóç. 

Ïé êÜôïéêïé ôùí ÇÐÁ, äéáêáôÝ÷ïíôáé áðü ìßá åðéêßíäõíç áöÝëåéá, êáé äõóôõ÷þò, åðçñåÜæïõí êáé ôïõò õðüëïéðïõò ëáïýò ôçò Ãçò, ðïõ Ý÷ïõí áðïóõíäåèåß áðü ôçí ðáñÜäïóÞ ôïõò.  Ç Åõñþðç üìùò áðïôåëåß áêüìá ôçí ðéï Ýìðåéñç êáé äõíáôÞ ðíåõìáôéêÜ ðåñéï÷Þ ôçò Ãçò, êáé ç øåõäÞò ðñïðáãÜíäá ôçò ðáñáðÜíù ïñãÜíùóçò ðùò ïé "ðéï ðáëéÝò øõ÷Ýò ôçò Åõñþðçò" äåí Ý÷ïõí ôçí äýíáìç íá ïäçãÞóïõí ôïõò ëáïýò óå Ýíá íÝï "äéáöùôéóìü", êáé æçëåýïõí êáé ìéóïýí ôçí ÁìåñéêÞ, áðïôåëåß áêüìá ìßá, áìåñéêÜíéêïõ ôýðïõ áöÝëåéá.

Äõóôõ÷þò, ç ÇÐÁ, êáôáóôñÝöåôáé óå üëá ôá åðßðåäá, ìÝñá ìå ôçí ìÝñá, ìéá êáé ç áëáæïíåßá ôïõ åöÞâïõ, ðåñíÜåé óôçí åðüìåíç ìåôáìïñöùôéêÞ öÜóç, ìÝóù ðïëëþí äïêéìáóéþí, Ýôóé þóôå êáé áõôüò ï ðïëéôéóìüò íá åíçëéêéùèåß... Ç ÇÐÁ âñßóêåôáé, ðíåõìáôéêÜ áéþíåò ðßóù, áðü ôçí ðïëéôéóìéêÞ åìðåéñßá, ðïõ Ý÷åé áðïêôÞóåé ç Åõñþðç.

[etidorhpa]

Áãáðçôç Rose_777,
ãéá íá ìçí ðáñåîçãçèù,êáé ãéá íá ìçí ãéíåé ôï èåìá óõæçôçóç ôùí 2,äåí åííïïõóá ôá äéêá óïõ åðé÷åéñçìáôá..
(êáé ìáëëïí áõôï åéíáé áðï ôá ìåéïíåêôçìáôá ðïõ å÷åé åíá forum óå ó÷åóç ìå real time óõæçôçóç..)
Åííïïõóá ïôé åíþ, ðïëõ åõêïëá êáôáëáâáéíïõìå êáé êñéíïõìå ðåñéðôùóåéò óáí ôçí ïñãáíùóç áõôç,÷ñçóéìïðïéïõìå (ùò êïéíùíéá) áêñéâùò ôï éäéï pattern óêåøçò ìå áõôïõò ãéá ðïëëá áëëá èåìáôá,ðéï êïíôéíá óå åìáò..
+n-

[Rose]

Åííïïõóá ïôé åíþ, ðïëõ åõêïëá êáôáëáâáéíïõìå êáé êñéíïõìå ðåñéðôùóåéò óáí ôçí ïñãáíùóç áõôç,÷ñçóéìïðïéïõìå (ùò êïéíùíéá) áêñéâùò ôï éäéï pattern óêåøçò ìå áõôïõò ãéá ðïëëá áëëá èåìáôá,ðéï êïíôéíá óå åìáò..
+n-

Ìðïñåß äýï Üíèñùðïé, íá ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýí ôï ßäéï pattern óêÝøçò, áëëÜ áí ï Ýíáò ëÝåé áëÞèåéá âáóéæüìåíïò óå íôïêïõìÝíôá êáé åðé÷åéñÞìáôá, êáé ï Üëëïò áðëÜ ðñåóâåýåé "äïîáóßåò" ïé ïðïßåò äåí óôçñßæïíôáé ðïõèåíÜ, õðÜñ÷åé ìåãÜëç äéáöïñÜ... 

¼ôáí êáôáêñßíïõìå ìßá ïñãÜíùóç Þ ìßá "éäåïëïãßá" Þ "ðñáêôéêÞ" äåí óçìáßíåé áðáñáßôçôá, üôé åßìáóôå áëáæüíåò Þ áíôáãùíéóôéêïß... Ìðïñåß áðëÜ íá óçìáßíåé ðùò áãùíéæüìáóôå ãéá ôçí Äéêáéïóýíç êáé ôçí ÁëÞèåéá...

Ç óõìðåñéöïñÜ áíÜìåóá óôïí áëáæüíá êáé óôïí Þñùá ìðïñåß íá ïìïéÜæïõí êÜðïéåò óôéãìÝò, áëëÜ ç äéáöïñÜ åßíáé óôï áðïôÝëåóìá.  Ï áëáæüíáò Þ ï åãùéóôÞò, äéáêáôÝ÷åôáé áðü éäéïôÝëåéá åíþ ï Þñùáò áðü áíéäéïôÝëåéá.  Åßíáé ïé äýï üøåéò, ç áñíçôéêÞ êáé ç èåôéêÞ, ôïõ óõíåéäçóéáêïý åðéðÝäïõ ôïõ 'Çëéïõ óôçí ÊáìðÜëá.

[ÏñöÝáò]

Ðåñá áðï ôá ðñïöáíùò áóôåéá åðé÷åéñçìáôá ôïõ óôõë: "Ôá êåéìåíá ïëùí ôùí áäåëöïôçôùí,ïëùí ôáí ÷ùñùí,öõëáóóïíôáé óôï êôéñéï ôïõ Beverly Hall,êáôïðéí åíôïëçò ôïõ Õðáôïõ Óõìâïõëéïõ,ðïõ áðïöáóéóå ïôé ôá êåíôñéêá åéíáé óôçí Pensylvania (ãéáôé?-ìáëëïí åêåé èá åìåíáí.. ),ðéóôåõù ïôé ôá õðïëïéðá ðïõ ëåíå ãéá ôçí õðïäïìç (êôéñéáêç êáé ïñãáíùóéáêç-ãíùóéáêç),åéíáé óùóôá..Éóùò íá ðñïêåéôáé ãéá ìéá áðï ôéò óïâáñåò áäåëöïôçôåò..Áõôï ðïõ äåí êáôáëáâáéíù,åéíáé ãéáôé ïëïé åíù áðï ôçí ìéá äéáêçññõóïõí ïôé äåí "ðñïóõëçôéæïõí" ìå êáíåíá ôñïðï,áãùíéæïíôáé íá áðïäåéîïõí ïôé áõôïé åéíáé ïé "áõèåíôéêïé" Ñïäïóôáõñïé..êáé íïìéæù ïôé áõôï åéíáé êáôé ðïõ ÷ñåéáæåôáé ðåñéóóïôåñç áíáëõóç..êáé åîçãù:
Ôé åãéíå áí äåí åéíáé ïé ìïíïé áõèåíôéêïé? Ç ÁËÇÈÅÉÁ åéíáé ìéá,áëëá ïé äñïìïé ãéá áõôçí ðïëëïé..
áñá êáôé ðéï õðïðôï êñõâåôáé ðéóù áðï ôçí äéåêäéêçóç ôïõ copyright,êáé å÷åé íá êáíåé ìáëëïí ìå ôï "ðëáóáñéóìá óôçí áãïñá" ôùí õðïøçöéùí íåïöõôùí...áëëá ðåñá áðï ôï ìáñêåôéíßóôéêï êïììáôé,õðáñ÷åé ìéá
ðïäïóöáéñéêç áíôéìåôùðéóç ðïõ åìåíá äåí ìïõ áñåóåé..(áõôïé åéíáé êáêïé-åìåéò åéìáóôå ïé êáëïé) êáé ðïõ ðéóôåõù ðùò ìéá Ñïäïóôáõñéêç ïìáäá,äåí ðñåðåé íá å÷åé.
Áõôç ç áíôéìåôùðéóç ðïõ áíôáðïêñéíåôáé óôï ðñùôïãåíåò ìáò åíóôéêôï êáé âãáæåé óôçí åðéöáíåéá ôç ãçéíç ðëåõñá ìáò,áó÷åôá áí ôï èåìá åéíáé ç ðáñáðáíù ïñãáíùóç,ôá Óêïðéá,ïé ïìïöõëïöéëïé(ôá áíáöåñù ÷ùñéò íá èåëù íá èéîù áðïøåéò,áðëá ãéáôé å÷ïõí áíáöåñèåé óôï forum).Ðéóôåõù ïôé óáí ìáèçôåò ôïõ Åóùôåñéóìïõ,ôï ðñùôï âçìá ðïõ ðñåðåé íá êáíïõìå (êáé åãù áêïìá åéìáé ðïëõ êáéíïõñãéïò),óôçí ìåôáìïñöùóç ìáò,åéíáé ôï íá áðáëëáãïõìå (óõíåéäçôá ïìùò),áðï åõêïëåò êáôçãïñéïðïéçóåéò êáé óôåãáíá,óôïí ôñïðï óêåøçò ìáò....Íá ìçí åéìáóôå åõêïëïé óôï íá áðïäïêéìáæïõìå...êáé íá ðñïóðáèïõìå íá ìçí êñéíïõìå ìå ôï âáñïò ôùí ãçéíùí áäõíáìéùí ìáò..

    Ïöåßëåé üðïéïò åðéêáëåßôáé ôçí áõèåíôéêüôçôá, íá ðñïâÜëëåé óôïé÷åéùäþò åðáñêÞ ôåêìÞñéá ðïõ óôïé÷åéïèåôïýí ôçí áîßùóÞ ôïõ. Ç åí ëüãù ïñãÜíùóç êáé ìüíï ìå ôï ãåãïíüò üôé áíÜãåé ôéò áðáñ÷Ýò ôçò óôçí åðï÷Þ ôùí Ñïäïóôáõñéêþí ðñïêõñÞîåùí ôçò Fama ôïõ Valentin Andrea, Ý÷åé áðùëÝóåé åê ôùí ðñáãìÜôùí ôçí áõèåíôéêüôçôá ôçò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò Áäåëöüôçôáò.

    Ç ïìÜäá ôïõ ÊÜóåë ðïõ ðñïÝâç óôéò äéáêõñÞîåéò, ðáñüôé Þôáí ìÝóá óôï ðíåýìá ôùí Ñïäïóôáýñùí íá óôçñßîïõí ôçí áðüó÷éóç ôùí Ðñïôåóôáíôþí áðü ôïí êáèïëéêéóìü, äõóôõ÷þò äåí Ýäñáóå ùò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ, ïýôå öõóéêÜ ìå ôçí óýìöùíç ãíþìç ôùí Ñïäüóôáõñùí ôçò åðï÷Þò. ÌÜëéóôá, ç éóôïñßá ôçò ïìÜäáò åêåßíçò, öáíåñþíåé üôé åß÷å Þäç áëëïéùèåß áðü Üôïìá ìå óêïðéìüôçôåò, Üó÷åôåò ìå ôï Ñïäïóôáõñéêü ðíåýìá, Üôïìá æçëùôÝò ôïõ èñçóêåõôéêïý ðñïôåóôáíôéóìïý, ðáíôåëþò îÝíá ìå ôçí åóùôåñéêÞ ïäü ôçò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò áäåëöüôçôáò. Ôï áðïôÝëåóìá âÝâáéá åêåßíçò ôçò êßíçóçò Þôáí, ïé ãíÞóéïé Ñïäüóôáõñïé íá áðïêõñÞîïõí ôïí åõôåëéóèÝíôá ðëÝïí ôßôëï, "ñïäüóôáõñïé" êáé íá õéïèåôÞóïõí ôïí ðáëéü ôßôëï ôïõ "óïöïý åñãÜôç ôçò ôÝ÷íçò", üíôåò ðñáãìáôéêïß Åñìçôéêïß, Áë÷çìéóôÝò êáé ãíþóôåò ôçò ÊáìðáëéóôéêÞò öéëïóïößáò.

    Áêüìá, ç áîßùóç ôçò áíáöåñèåßóçò ïñãÜíùóçò ãéá áñ÷Þ ôïõ ñïäïóôáõñéóìïý óôçí äéáêÞñõîç ôçò Fama, áðáîéþíåé áéþíåò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò äéäáóêáëßáò êáé ïñãÜíùóçò, êáé áðáñíåßôáé éóôïñßá áéþíùí ôùí áõèåíôéêþí Ñïäüóôáõñùí ôçò Ãáëëßáò, ôçò Áããëßáò áëëÜ êáé ôçò ìåãÜëçò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò áäåëöüôçôáò, ôïí ðñïçãïýìåíï áéþíá ðñéí ôçí äéáêÞñõîç, ôçò áäåëöüôçôáò Ñïäïóôáýñùí ôùí êÜôù ÷ùñþí.

    Ç êñéôéêÞ äåí ãßíåôáé ãéá íá äéáóöáëßóïõìå ôçí ìïíáäéêüôçôá ôçò áõèåíôéêÞò ðáñÜäïóçò, üìùò ïöåßëïõìå íá êÜíïõìå áõóôçñÞ êñéôéêÞ óôçí äéáóôñÝâëùóç ôùí ðáñáäüóåùí êáé óôçí áôåêìçñßùôç áîßùóç, üóùí ðáñïõóéÜæïõí ìéá äéêÞ ôïõò äéäáóêáëßá ùò áõèåíôéêÞ.

    Ï äñüìïò ðñïò ôçí áëÞèåéá äåí åßíáé Ýíáò êáé ìïíáäéêüò. ¼ìùò, êáíÝíáò äñüìïò óôñùìÝíïò ìå øåýäç ðïõ áîéþíïõí äïãìáôéêÜ ôï ðåñß áëçèåßáò, äåí äýíáôáé íá ïäçãåß óôçí áëÞèåéá.

    Óôï öüñïõì áõôü, ðáñïôñýíïõìå ãéá áõóôçñÞ êñéôéêÞ, êáèüôé ãéá íá ðñïêýøåé ï êáèáñüò ÷ñõóüò, ôï ìßãìá õößóôáôáé ðïëëÝò åðþäõíåò âáèìßäåò åðåîåñãáóßáò êáé óêëçñÝò äïêéìáóßåò. Ôï ßäéï ðíåýìá ðñïóðáèåß íá åìöõóÞóåé ç Á.Ì.Ñ.Á. ðñïò ôïí Íåüöõôï, Ýíá ðíåýìá áìöéóâÞôçóçò êáé åíäåëå÷ïýò Ýñåõíáò, þóôå íá áðïêôÞóåé áðü ôçí áñ÷Þ áêüìá ôçí ðïëõðüèçôç äéÜêñéóç, éäéüôçôá áðáñáßôçôç ùò áóðßäá åíÜíôéá óôéò ðëÜíåò êáé óôéò ðáãßäåò ðïõ åëëï÷åýïõí óôïí äñüìï ôïõ êÜèå áíáæçôçôÞ.

    ¼ðùò óôç æùÞ, ï íÝïò äéáêáôÝ÷åôáé áðü áíôéðáëüôçôá êáé åðáíáóôáôéêüôçôá áðÝíáíôé óôéò êáôåóôçìÝíåò áñ÷Ýò êáé ðáñáäï÷Ýò, ôï ßäéï åðéèõìïýìå êáé áðü ôïí íÝï ïäïéðüñï, þóôå íá öèÜóåé íá õéïèåôåß èåùñßåò, ìüíïí üóåò Üíôåîáí óôçí óêëçñÞ äïêéìáóßá ôçò áìöéóâÞôçóçò, ìüíïí üóåò ï ßäéïò Ý÷åé åðåîåñãáóèåß êáé áðïäåßîåé ôçí ïñèüôçôÜ ôïõò. Ìå ôï óêåðôéêü áõôü óõíçãïñïýìå êáé õðïóôçñßæïõìå ôçí áìöéóâÞôçóç, áêüìá êáé áí áõôÞ ãéá ôïí Íåüöõôï, öôÜíåé íá ãßíåôáé ìá÷çôéêÞ Üñíçóç, êáôçãïñéïðïßçóç, áðïäïêéìáóßá  Þ áíôßóôáóç óôéò ðáñáäï÷Ýò ôçò ðëåéïíüôçôáò.

    Åßíáé ðñïôéìþôåñï Ýíáò Íåüöõôïò íá åðéìÝíåé Ýóôù êáé åóöáëìÝíá êáé íá áíôéóôÝêåôáé óôçí áðïäï÷Þ êÜðïéùí äéäá÷þí, ðáñÜ íá óõíçèÞóåé íá áðïäÝ÷åôáé ÷ùñßò êñßóç äéäá÷Ýò ðïõ öáíôÜæïõí Þ ðñïÝñ÷ïíôáé áðü ðáñïõóéáæüìåíåò áõèåíôßåò.

    Åðéèõìïýìå íá ðñïÜãïõìå ôçí åðáíáóôáôéêüôçôá êáé ôçí áíôéðáëüôçôá åíÜíôéá óå êáôåóôçìÝíåò äïìÝò, êáèüôé, ìå Þðéá ìÝóá êáé êáëïðñïáßñåôç áðïäï÷Þ äåí äýíáôáé íá áíáäïìÞóïõìå ôïí ðáëáéü ìáò åáõôü, ïýôå íá ôïí ìåôáóôïé÷åéþóïõìå ìå ìßá áíáãÝííçóç ðïõ õðïíïåß áðáñáßôçôá Ýíáí ðñüôåñï èÜíáôï.

[suida]

 ETIDORHPA......ÅÐÅÔÑÅØÅ   ÌÏÕ....

                           ÅÉÍÁÉ    ÐËÅÏÍ   Ã Å Ã Ï Í Ï Ó .....Ï,ÔÉ    ÊÁÈÅ   " Å Î Õ Ð Í Ï "   ÁÔÏÌÏ....Ã Í Ù Ñ É Æ Å É ....ïôé   åéíáé   åîõðíï...

                                                                           Ï   ÊÁÈÅ    "ê á ê ï ð ï é ï ò"....  å÷åé     Å Ð É Ã Í Ù Ó Ç .......

                                                   Å Ð É Ó Ç Ó .....    Ï    ""á ì ï ñ ö ù ô ï ò "..... å÷åé    ôçí   Á É Ó È Ç Ó Ç .... ôçò   Å Ë Ë Å É Ø Ç Ó ...

                            Ç    Ì Å Ã É Ó Ô Ç    Á Í Ô É È Å Ó Ç .....ìå   ï ë á    áõôá....Ð Á Ñ Á Ô Ç Ñ Ç Ô Á É .....ÓÔÏÍ     Â  Ë  Á  Ê  Á  ....
                                                  èá   åëåãá.....

            Ã É Á Ô É ....!!!     ÅÐÅÔÑÅØÅ   ÌÏÕ....

                            Ï    Â Ë Á Ê Á Ó .....ÄÅÍ    Î Å Ñ Å É    ÏÔÉ   Å É Í Á É .....  Â  Ë  Á  Ê  Á  Ó .......

            Á Õ Ô Ï ....    Ð Ñ Ï Ó Ä É Ä Å É       ÌÅÃÁËÇ    Ä Õ Í Á Ì Ç .....,   Å Ì Ð Í Å Õ Ó Ç ....ÊÁÉ    Á Ð Ï Ô Å Ë Å Ó Ì Á Ô É Ê Ï Ô Ç Ô Á ...!!

                            ÓÔÏ     Ê  Á  Ô  Á  Ó  Ô  Ñ  Ï  Ö  É  Ê  Ï        Å Ñ Ã Ï  .....  ÐÏÕ   ÌÅ   ÌÅÃÁËÇ    Á Í Å Ó Ç .... Á Í Á Ë Á Ì Â Á Í Å É .


             ÊÁÈÅ....   Â Ë Á Ê Á Ó ,   Ö Ñ Ï Í Ô É Æ Å É     ÊÁÉ    Á Í Á Ê Á Ë Õ Ð Ô Å É ....

                           ÅÍÁÍ    ÁÊÏÌÇ....   ÐÉÏ    Â Ë Á Ê Á      ÁÐÏ    ÁÕÔÏÍ....    ÅÔÓÉ    ÙÓÔÅ....

                           ÍÁ    ÔÏÍ    Ð Å Ñ É Â Á Ë Å É ...   ÁÕÔÏÓ ( ï   äåõôåñïò  )   ìå    È Á Õ Ì Á Ó Ì Ï .....


               ÏÉ    ÊÉÍÅÆÏÉ....   ëåíå....   ""ÌÇÍ    ÐÑÏÓÊÁËÅÉÓ    ÓÔÏ    ÔÑÁÐÅÆÉ   ÓÏÕ   ....   Á Õ Ô Ï Í / ÔÇÍ.....ÐÏÕ

                                                       Ì Å Ã Á Ë Ï Ö Ù Í Á .....ËÅÅÉ.....    Ï, Ô É      ÏÉ    Á Ë Ë Ï É       Ë Å Í Å ....

                                                                                 Ø É È Õ Ñ É Ó Ô Á ..."""


                 ÅÌÅÉÓ....( ÅËËÇÍÅÓ)    ËÅÌÅ.... "" Ï   ÓÏÖÏÓ....   Á Í Á Æ Ç Ô Á     ÔÇÍ   ÓÏÖÉÁ....  ÐÁÍÔÏÔÉÍÁ....

                                                               Ï    ÔÑÅËËÏÓ.....Ð É Ó Ô Å Õ Å É ....ÏÔÉ   ÔÇÍ   Å×ÅÉ     Ñ  Å  É  ....""


                                                                                                           ÌÅ   ÐÏËËÇ    Á Ã Á Ð Ç .....   Å Ë Ë Á .......

[Rose]

ÏÉ    ÊÉÍÅÆÏÉ....   ëåíå....   ""ÌÇÍ    ÐÑÏÓÊÁËÅÉÓ    ÓÔÏ    ÔÑÁÐÅÆÉ   ÓÏÕ   ....   Á Õ Ô Ï Í / ÔÇÍ.....ÐÏÕ
                                    Ì Å Ã Á Ë Ï Ö Ù Í Á .....ËÅÅÉ.....    Ï, Ô É      ÏÉ    Á Ë Ë Ï É       Ë Å Í Å ....
                                                                                 Ø É È Õ Ñ É Ó Ô Á ..."""

ÁäåëöÝ ìïõ Suida,

ìå åõêáéñßá ôçí áíáöïñÜ óïõ óôïõò ÊéíÝæïõò, Ýñ÷ïìáé íá óçìåéþóù üôé, áí êáé ç ÊéíÝæéêç ðáñÜäïóç äéáêáôÝ÷åôáé áðü áñêåôÞ óïößá, ïé ÊéíÝæïé óáí ëáüò, äåí áîéþèçêáí ðïôÝ íá äéåêäéêÞóïõí ôá áíèñþðéíá äéêáéþìáôÜ ôïõò, íá äçìéïõñãÞóïõí äçìïêñáôéêÝò êïéíùíßåò, ìå áðïôÝëåóìá áêüìá êáé óÞìåñá íá öçìßæïíôáé ãéá ôçí õðïôÝëåéá êáé ôçí åýêïëç ÷åéñáãþãçóÞ ôïõò.  Áõôüò åßíáé êáé Ýíáò áðü ôïõò ëüãïõò ðïõ ïé áãïñÝò ôïõ êüóìïõ Ý÷ïõí ãåìßóåé êéíÝæéêá ðñïúüíôá, ìéá êáé ïé ÊéíÝæïé áðïôåëïýí ôï öèçíüôåñï åñãáôéêü äõíáìéêü.

Áðåíáíôßáò ç ÅëëçíéêÞ êïéíùíßá öçìßæåôáé ãéá ôçí åðáíáóôáôéêüôçôá ôçò, ôïí çñùéóìü ôçò, êáé ãéá ôçí äéåêäßêçóç ôùí áíèñùðßíùí äéêáéùìÜôùí.  Åßíáé ðïëý óçìáíôéêü íá ðñïâëçìáôéóôïýìå ôé äçìéïõñãåß áõôÞ ôçí äéáöïñÜ óôçí ðïëéôéóìéêÞ åîÝëéîç ôùí ëáþí, êáé ðïéá ïõóéáóôéêÜ íïïôñïðßá Þ éäåïëïãßá ðñïÜãåé ôçí ðíåõìáôéêÞ êáé áíèñùðéóôéêÞ åîÝëéîç, åßôå áôïìéêÜ åßôå óõëëïãéêÜ.

'Ïóïí áöïñÜ ôïí üñï "×ñéóôéáíüò Ñïäüóôáõñïò" èá ðáñáèÝóïõìå êÜðïéá óôéãìÞ óôï ðñïóå÷Ýò ìÝëëïí, Ýñåõíá ôçò ÁÌÑÁ, üðïõ èá ðáñïõóéÜæïíôáé ðëÞñç êáé áíáëõôéêÜ, óôïé÷åßá êáé íôïêïõìÝíôá, áëëïßùóçò ôçò Áõôü÷èïíçò ÅõñùðáúêÞò ÐáíèåúóôéêÞò Êßíçóçò ðïõ ïíüìáæåôáé Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò, áðü ÷ñéóôéáíïãåííåßò éäåïëïãßåò.

Ï Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò óõíäÝåôáé ìå ôïí Äéáöùôéóìü êáé ï ×ñéóôéáíéóìüò ìå ôïí Óêïôáäéóìü, Üñá ç Ýííïéá "×ñéóôéáíüò Ñïäüóôáõñïò" åßíáé Ýíáò áôõ÷Þò íåïôåñéóìüò, áí êáé äçìéïõñãÞèçêå ãýñù óôï 1500, ðïõ ðñïóâÜëåé êáé áëëïéþíåé ôçí ãíÞóéá ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ ðáñÜäïóç.

Ç áéôßá äçìéïõñãßáò áõôÞò ôçò íåï-÷ñéóôéáíéêÞò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò Áßñåóçò, ôùí "×ñéóôéáíþí Ñïäüóôáõñùí" åßíáé ç ×ñéóôéáíéêÞ ÐñïôåóôáíôéêÞ Áßñåóç ðïõ äéáóðÜóôçêå áðü ôïí ÐÜðá, êáé õéïèÝôçóå ðáíèåúóôéêÝò íïïôñïðßåò áðü ôï áõèåíôéêü ðáíèåúóôéêü Ñïäïóôáõñéêü êßíçìá äçìéïõñãþíôáò Ýôóé ôïí ×ñéóôéáíéêü Ñïäïóôáõñéóìü.

Óôçí êõñéïëåîßá êáðçëåýôçêå ôçí ÁõèåíôéêÞ ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞ ðáñÜäïóç, ðáñáðïßçóå ôéò ãíÞóéåò äéäáóêáëßåò, êáé ìÝóù áõôþí åíáíôéþèçêå óôïí Êáèïëéêéóìü.  Ç ðñïôåóôÜíôéêç áßñåóç åßíáé ç áéôßá äçìéïõñãßáò üëùí ôùí íåïôåñßóôéêùí åóùôåñéêþí ôáãìÜôùí ìåôÜ ôï 1500, êáèþò êáé áëëßùóáí ôá õðÜñ÷ïíôá üðùò ôïí Ôåêôïíéóìü, ìå áðïôÝëåóìá óôéò ìÝñåò ìáò, íá ìçí õðÜñ÷ïõí ðëÝïí ïé áõèåíôéêÝò ó÷ïëÝò åóùôåñéóìïý.

Ç ÁÌÑÁ áðïôåëåß óõíÝ÷åéá ôùí áõèåíôéêþí åóùôåñéêþí ó÷ïëþí, ðñéí ôçí ðáñáðïßçóç áõôÞ áðü ôïõò ðñïôåóôÜíôåò, Þ ôïõò Éçóïõßôåò, êáé ìÝ÷ñé óôéãìÞò äåí Ý÷ïõìå âñåé Üëëç åóùôåñéêÞ ó÷ïëÞ, ðïõ íá ìçí Ý÷åé áëëïéùèåß áðü áõôÞí ôçí ðñïóôåóôáíôéêÞ ÷ñéóôéáíéêÞ êßíçóç.

¼ôáí óõììåôåß÷á óôï Amorc, åß÷á êáôáíïÞóåé ðùò ï Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò åßíáé åóùôåñéêüò ÷ñéóôéáíéóìüò, áí êáé áíáöåñüôáí ðùò ïé Ñïäüóôáõñïé åßíáé ðáíèåúóôÝò. ¼ôáí äéáêñßíïõìå ôÝôïéåò áíôéöÜóåéò óôéò äéäáóêáëßåò åíüò ôÜãìáôïò, äçëþíåé áðëÜ ðùò Ý÷ïõìå íá êÜíïõìå ìå áíßäåïõò Þ áðáôåþíåò.

Åßíáé ðÜñá ðïëý óçìáíôéêü íá ãíùñßóïõìå ôçí ðñáãìáôéêÞ éóôïñßá ôïõ äéáöùôéóôéêïý êéíÞìáôïò, êáèþò êáé ôçò Áñ÷áéïåëëçíéêÞò ìáò ìõçôéêÞò ðáñÜäïóçò, äéüôé áëëéþò èá åßìáóôå óõíå÷þò õðï÷åßñéá äéáöüñùí öáíôáóôéêþí äïîáóéþí, ðïõ èá ìáò áðïðñïóáíáôïëßæïõí áðü ôçí ðñáãìáôéêüôçôá.

Ï Ñïäïóôáõñéóìüò äåí ðñïÜãåé óùôçñéïëïãßåò êáé áâáôÜñ, áëëÜ ðíåõìáôéêÞ åëåõèåñßá êáé áíèñùðéóìü. Ôï íá åðéëÝîïõìå íá áêïëïõèÞóïõìå Ýíáí ðíåõìáôéêü äñüìï, äåí óçìáßíåé íá âñïýìå Ýíáí äÜóêáëï, êáé íá ãßíïõìå õðï÷åßñéü ôïõ, áëëÜ íá ãíùñßóïõìå ôá ìõóôÞñéá ôçò æùÞò êáé ìÝóù áõôþí íá ãßíïõìå Åëåýèåñïé êáé ÅíÜñåôïé Üíèñùðïé...

¼ëåò áõôÝò ïé øåõäåßò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÝò ïñãáíþóåéò, äåí ìéëïýí ãéá áíèñùðéóìü, äåí ðñïÜãïõí êïéíùíéêÜ Ýñãá, áëëÜ áíáöÝñïíôáé óå ìõóôéêÝò áðñüóéôåò äéäáóêáëßåò êáé óå êñõöïýò ìåóóßåò ðïõ ìüíï ïé åêëåêôïß Ý÷ïõí ðñüóâáóç.

Ï êáëýôåñïò ôñüðïò üìùò íá õðïäïõëùèåß êÜðïéïò ðíåõìáôéêÜ êáé õëéêÜ, åßíáé íá ðñïóêõíÞóåé êáé íá õðçñåôÞóåé êÜðïéïí ìåóóßá.  Ãé' áõôü êáé ôï ÷ñéóôéáíéêü äüãìá, Ý÷åé ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèåß áðü ôçí åêÜóôïôå åîïõóßá ãéá íá ÷åéñáãùãÞóåé ôïí êÜèå ëáü.  Äéüôé ï Üíèñùðïò áðü ôçí öýóç ôïõ åßíáé áäýíáìïò êáé øÜ÷íåé ãéá óùôÞñåò.  Äåí Ý÷åé êáôáíïÞóåé áêüìá ï Üíèñùðïò ðùò ç íïïôñïðßá ôïõ "óùôÞñá" äåí èá ôïí óþóåé, áëëÜ èá ôïí õðïäïõëþóåé.

Ï Ðñïôåóôáíôéóìüò Ýãéíå áéôßá, áëëïßùóçò êáé ôçò ÷ñéóôéáíéêÞò ðáñÜäïóçò, áëëÜ êáé ôçò ÑïäïóôáõñéêÞò.  ÌåôÜ ôçí ðñïôåóôáíôéêÞ áßñåóç, ï ÷ñéóôéáíéóìüò õðÝóôç óõíå÷üìåíç äéÜóðáóç, ìå áðïôÝëåóìá óÞìåñá ç ÁìåñéêÞ íá Ý÷åé 3000 áéñÝóåéò... åîáéôßáò áõôÞò ôçò íïïôñïðßáò, ðïõ åéóÞãáãå ï Ðñïôåóôáíôéóìüò.

Ôï ðáñÜäïîï åßíáé ðùò óÞìåñá ïé ôåëåôïõñãßåò ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéåß ç Ïñèüäïîç ×ñéóôéáíéêÞ Åêêëçóßá, âñßóêïíôáé ðéï êïíôÜ óôá Áñ÷áßá ÅëëçíéêÜ ÌõóôÞñéá, áðü êÜèå íåïôåñßóôéêï ðñïôåóôáíôéêü åóùôåñéêü ôÜãìá, ðïõ äçìéïõñãÞèçêå ìåôÜ ôï 1500.  Áí êáé ðáñáðïéÞèçêáí ôá Áñ÷áßá ÅëëçíéêÜ ÌõóôÞñéá áðü ôçí ×ñéóôáíéêÞ Åêêëçóßá, åðåéäÞ áêñéâþò äéáôçñÞèçêå ç ðáñÜäïóç, áðïôåëåß äõóôõ÷þò ðéï áõèåíôéêÞ ðçãÞ ìõóôéêéóìïý.

Áõôü åßíáé ôï ìÝãåèïò ôçò ðáñáðïßçóçò ðïõ Ý÷ïõí õðïóôåß ôá áõèåíôéêÜ ìõóôÞñéá óÞìåñá.   

[etidorhpa]

êáô'áñ÷áò óõìöùíù ùò ðñïò ôï ïôé ÖÕÓÉÊÁ êáé èá ðñåðåé íá êñéíïõìå..Äåí åéðá ðïõèåíá ïôé èá ðñåðåé íá äïõìå ìå "÷áëáñç" ìáôéá ïðïéáäçðïôå ïñãáíùóç ç êáôáóôáóç ãåíéêá..
áðëá åéðá ïôé èá ðñåðåé íá ìçí êáôáëçãïõìå óå èåùñçóåéò (ïðùò êáíïõí áõôïé) ÁÂÉÁÓÔÁ êáé ôéò ïðïéåò íá ôéò õðåñáóðéæïìáóôå ìå ÖÁÍÁÔÉÓÌÏ..Íá åéìáóôå áíïé÷ôá ìõáëá,÷ùñéò ðñïêáôáëçøåéò..ïðïôå íïìéæù ïôé óõìöùíïõìå óå áõôï.
Áãáðçôå Suida,áí ïëïé ãíùñéæïõìå ôé åéìáóôå,ôïôå ìáëëïí å÷ïõìå êáôáêôçóåé ôï "ãíùèé ó'áõôïí"....
Áãáðçôç Rose_777,åðåéäç êáôáëáâáéíù ôçí áãùíéá óïõ ãéá ôçí áðïêáôáóôáóç ôçò áëçèåéáò ïóï áöïñá ôçí ðñåëåõóç ôùí Ìõóôçñéùí,ôçí åðéññïç ðïõ åé÷áí óå ïëç ôçí õðïëïéðç Åõñùðç êáé ï÷é ìïíï óôá Ìõóôéêéóôéêá Ôáãìáôá áëëá êáé ãåíéêá óôïí ôñïðï óêåøçò,óõìöùíïõìå..Äåí õðáñ÷åé Åóùôåñéêï ôõðéêï óå êáíåíá Ôáãìá,ðïõ íá ìçí å÷åé ôéò ñéæåò ôïõ óôçí Åëëáäá..
Âåâáéá ôï ôé åííïïõìå "áñ÷áéá Åëëáäá" êáé ôé ó÷åóç å÷åé ìå ôçí óçìåñéíç,åéíáé ìéá áëëç ìåãáëç êïõâåíôá..
Ïóï ãéá ôçí êáôáóôñïöéêç åðéäñáóç ðïõ åé÷å ï "×ñéóôéáíéóìïò",óõìöùíù,áí êáé äåí âëåðù êáêï óôï íá øáîåé íá âñåé êáíåéò êáé íá óôçñé÷ôåé (êáé óå áõôï ïðùò êáé óå ðïëëåò áëëåò ó÷ïëåò óêåøçò),ôïí Åóùôåñéêï ×ñéóôéáíéóìï,ï ïðïéïò ìå ôç óåéñá ôïõ çôáí óõíå÷åéá êáé ôïõ Áñ÷áéïõ Åëëçíéêïõ Åóùôåñéóìïõ..
+n-