Franz Bardon - Initiation into Hermetics

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/301820/Initiation-into-Hermetics-by-Franz-Bardon

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êáôåâáóá êáé ôá äõï âéâëéá,êáé ãéá íá åéìáé åéëéêñéíçò,äéáâáæïíôáò ôï Initiation into Hermetics,å÷ù åíôõðùóéáóôåé áðï ôçí áðëç êáé ðñáêôéêç ðáñïõóéáóç ôïõ Bardon....
Äåí ðáõåé ïìùò íá ôñéãõñéæåé óôï ìõáëï ìïõ ç áðïñéá:
"Öôáíåé ç óôéãìç óôç æùç(åò) êáèå áíèñùðïõ,ðïõ íïéùèåé ìåóá ôïõ ìéá âáèåéá áíáãêç íá ãíùñéóåé ôïí åáõôï ôïõ,ôï "èåéï" ðïõ âñéóêåôáé ìåóá ôïõ êáé íá êáôáëáâåé ôï ìåãåèïò ôïõ êáé ôçí èåóç ôïõ óôï óõìðáí..."
Áõôç ç âáèåéá èñçóêåõôéêç-öéëïóïöéêç-ìåôáöõóéêç áíáãêç,êáíåé ôïõò áíèñùðïõò íá øá÷íïõí ãéá ÷ñïíéá,ðïëëåò öïñåò ìå áðïãïçôåõóåéò óôçí ðïñåéá,áëëá ðáíôá ìå ôçí öëïãá óôçí øõ÷ç ôïõò áíáììåíç...
Êáé ôåëéêá ïëï áõôï åéíáé åíá "ôå÷íéêï" èåìá,ïðïõ ìå ìéá óåéñá "ðíåõìáôéêùí" êáé áíáðíåõóôéêùí áóêçóåùí,ðñáãìáôïðïéåéôáé ç åðéèõìéá ìáò áõôç?? Äåí îåñù ãéáôé,áëëá ìïõ öáéíåôáé ðïëõ...ðåæï.
Ãéá íá ó÷åäéáóåéò åíá õðåñï÷ï êôéñéï,óéãïõñá ÷ñåéáæåôáé íá îåñåéò íá ãñáöåéò,áëëá äåí åéíáé ôï éäéï..
Ôï íá èåëåéò íá åñèåéò óå åðáöç ìå ôïí áíùôåñï åáõôï óïõ,ìïõ öáéíåôáé éóùò ï ðéï "åõãåíçò" óêïðïò ðïõ ìðïñåéò íá å÷åéò...êáé ïëï áõôï ìå ìåñéêåò ,(áñêåôá äõóêïëåò) áóêçóåéò??

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Íïìßæù ïôé äåí åßíáé áêñéâþò áõôü ðïõ ëåò.
ÅðåéäÞ Ýñéîá ìéá ìáôéÜ óôï åí ëüãù âéâëßï...
Åßíáé ôåëåßùò äéáöïñåôéêÜ ðñÜãìáôÜ... áõôÜ

áðü ôç ìéá áõôü ãéá ôï ïðïßï ìéëÜò ...

"Öôáíåé ç óôéãìç óôç æùç(åò) êáèå áíèñùðïõ,ðïõ íïéùèåé ìåóá ôïõ ìéá âáèåéá áíáãêç íá ãíùñéóåé ôïí åáõôï ôïõ,ôï "èåéï" ðïõ âñéóêåôáé ìåóá ôïõ êáé íá êáôáëáâåé ôï ìåãåèïò ôïõ êáé ôçí èåóç ôïõ óôï óõìðáí..."
Áõôç ç âáèåéá èñçóêåõôéêç-öéëïóïöéêç-ìåôáöõóéêç áíáãêç,êáíåé ôïõò áíèñùðïõò íá øá÷íïõí ãéá ÷ñïíéá,ðïëëåò öïñåò ìå áðïãïçôåõóåéò óôçí ðïñåéá,áëëá ðáíôá ìå ôçí öëïãá óôçí øõ÷ç ôïõò áíáììåíç...

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áõôü óôï ïðïßï áíáöÝñåôáé ôï âéâëßï:

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þóôå... íá êáôáóôÞ äõíáôüí -íá ôï ðþ Ýôóé- íá óõìâïýí üóá åóý áíáöÝñåéò êáé êÜèå Üíèñùðïò åëðßæåé....

Åíäå÷ïìÝíùò íá óöÜëëù...  áëëÜ åãþ ôïõëÜ÷éóôïí Ýôóé ôï áíôéìåôþðéóá ôï âéâëßï (êáé êÜèå Üëëï ó÷åôéêü âéâëßï)


 

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Ìïõ öáéíåôáé ëéãï ðåñéåñãï óáí óõó÷åôéóìïò...

Èåëù íá ðù ïôé ôï êéíçôñï ðïõ ìáò êáíåé ïëïõò íá øá÷íïõìå áõôá ôá èåìáôá,åéíáé áõôï ðïõ åãñáøá ðñéí,Áõôç åéíáé ç öëïãá..ï÷é ôï íá êáôáöåñåéò íá ðñïâáëëåéò ãéá 10 ëåðôá ôçí "åéêïíá" ðïõ èåëåéò óå åíá õãñï..
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ÁëëÜ åðåéäÞ ãéá ìÝíá êáé ãéá óÝíá ð÷ äåí åßíáé ''ôñüðïò æùÞò'' êáé ïõäÝðïôå õðÞñîå... íá áðïôåëåß áóêÞóåéò...
¼ëá ôá ðñÜãìáôá ðïõ îÝñïõìå êáé êÜíïõìå ùò ôþñá (ìÜëéóôá áêáñéáßá, áíôáíáêëáóôéêÜ) ìÝóù Üóêçóçò ôá êÜíáìå. ÊÜðïôå, èÝëù íá ðù, áóêÞóåéò, Þôáí...

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ÁëëÜ... ðþò íá ôï ðþ ôþñá.. å..
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ÅðïìÝíùò... ðñïöáíþò, üëá åßíáé áëëçëÝíäåôá... óþìá, øõ÷Þ Þ ü,ôé Üëëï ìðïñïýìå íá áíáöÝñïõìå áíÜëïãï êáé ó÷åôéêü... êáé ìÜëëïí ðáßæïõí üëá ôïí ñüëï ôïõò. Áëëçëåðéäñïýí, ìÜëëïí ðñÝðåé íá ðù êáëëßôåñá ð÷ ôï óþìá ìå ôçí øõ÷Þ êôë (êáëÜ ïé üñïé ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéþ ôþñá åßíáé ó÷åôéêïß.. Ýôóé...)

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Ìáëëïí åéíáé ç äéáöïñá ðñïóåããéóçò : ÌÕÓÔÉÊÉÓÔÉÊÇ VS ÁÐÏÊÑÕÖÉÓÔÉÊÇ..
Ìðïñù íá êáôáëáâù (ìïõ öáéíåôáé êáé ðéï "éäåáëéóôéêç" áí ôï èåò),ôçí áëõóéäá (ÌÕÓÔÉÊÉÓÔÉÊÇ)

Áíèñùðïò ðïõ èåëåé íá ãíùñéóåé/åíùèåé ìå ôï èåéï ===> Ôïõ ðáñïõóéáæåôáé ôï èåéï (ÏÑÁÌÁ êëð)

áðï ôçí ëéãï ðéï "ðïíçñç" (ÁÐÏÊÑÕÖÉÓÔÉÊÇ):
Áíèñùðïò ðïõ èåëåé íá ãíùñéóåé/åíùèåé ìå ôï èåéï=> Ãíùñéæåé êáðïéïí=>Êáíåé áóêçóåéò êáé äéáëïãéóìï ===>Âñéóêåé ôï èåéï (áõôïãíùóéá,ç ïôé áëëï)

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Ìáëëïí åéíáé ç äéáöïñá ðñïóåããéóçò : ÌÕÓÔÉÊÉÓÔÉÊÇ VS ÁÐÏÊÑÕÖÉÓÔÉÊÇ..

Ãéá íá ìðïñÝóïõìå íá êáôáêôÞóïõìå ôï åðßðåäï ôçò ÇëéáêÞò Óõíåßäçóçò, ôï Ðíåõìáôéêü åðßðåäï, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá åíáñìïíßóïõìå ìÝóá ìáò ôï ÅÑÌÁÖÑÏÄÉÔÏ.  ÄçëáäÞ ôçí Áöñïäßôç (ôïí Ìõóôéêéóìü) ìå ôïí ÅñìÞ (ôïí Áðïêñõöéóìü).

Ïé óõíáéóèçìáôéêïß ôýðïé, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá åêðáéäåõôïýí óôçí äéáíüçóç, êáé ïé äéáíïçôéêïß ôýðïé, óôçí øõ÷éêÞ åõáéóèçóßá. Ï âéâëßï ôïõ Bardon, áíáöÝñåôáé óôï åñìçôéêü êïììÜôé ìáò, óôï áðïêñõöéóôéêü, áõôü ðïõ èÝëåé íá êÜíåé ÅÐÉÓÔÇÌÇ, ôçí åðáöÞ ìáò ìå ôïí ðíåõìáôéêü êüóìï, Þ êáëýôåñá ôïí áéèåñéêü êüóìï, ôïí êüóìï ôçò áêÜóá.

Ï ×áëßë ÃêéìðñÜí óôï ÊÞðï ôïõ ÐñïöÞôç ëÝåé:

"Ç øõ÷Þ óáò åßíáé ðïëëÝò öïñÝò ðåäßï ìÜ÷çò, üðïõ ôï ëïãéêü óáò êáé ç êñßóç óáò êÜíïõí ðüëåìï åíÜíôéá óôï ðÜèïò êáé ôçí üñåîÞ óáò.

ÌáêÜñé íá ìðïñïýóá íá ãßíù åéñçíïðïéüò óôçí øõ÷Þ óáò, êáé íá ìåôáôñÝøù ôç äé÷üíïéá êáé ôïí áíôáãùíéóìü ôùí óôïé÷åßùí óáò óå åíüôçôá êáé áñìïíßá.  ÁëëÜ ðùò ìðïñåß íá ãßíåé áõôü, áí êé åóåßò ïé ßäéïé äå ãßíåôå åéñçíïðïéïß, êé áêüìá, ïé åñáóôÝò üëùí ôùí óôïé÷åßùí óáò;"

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Êáëçìåñá,
Âáóéêá,åéðá áðï ôçí áñ÷ç áëëá êáé óôç óõíå÷åéá,ïôé ï Franz Barton ìå åíôõðùóéáóå,êáé ìáëéóôá "ðïñùèçêá" ìå ôï âéâëéï ôïõ.Åéíáé áðï ôéò ëéãåò öïñåò ðïõ äéáâáæù êáôé ôïóï "åðéóôçìïíéêá" êáé "øõ÷ñáéìá" ôåêìçñéùìåíï,óå ó÷åóç ìå ôéò õøçëïôåñåò óöáéñåò.(êáé ç Fortune å÷åé ìéá ðáñáëëçëç äéáäéêáóéá ðñïóåããéóçò ðñïóðáèùíôáò íá áíáëõóåé ôïõò "áõëïõò" êïóìïõò ìå åðéóôçìïíéêç -ðåñéóóïôåñï øõ÷ïëïãéêç- ìáôéá).

Ï ðñïâëçìáôéóìïò ìïõ çôáí ëéãï-ðïëõ "äéêçãïñïò ôïõ äéáâïëïõ",êáé äåí åé÷å íá êáíåé ìå ôïí Bardon....
Áõôïò áíáëõåé êáé äåé÷íåé åíá ôñïðï ãéá íá öôáóåéò íá äåéò êáé íá åñãáæåóáé óå áõôïõò ôïõò êïóìïõò,óôçí ïõóéá ìå ôçí õðåñåíéó÷õóç ïëùí ôùí áéóèçóåùí,êáé ôçò ðáñáëëçëçò áíáðôõîçò ôçò öáíôáóéáò...ôùñá ôï áí ìðïñåé êáôé ôåôïéï íá ãéíåé åõêïëá,åéíáé åíá èåìá,êáé áõôï ðïõ ìïõ öáéíåôáé áäéêï óôçí ïëç éóôïñéá,åéíáé ôï ïôé ìðïñåé êáðïéïò íá èåëåé ìå ïëï ôïõ ôïí åáõôï íá ãíùñéóåé áõôïõò ôïõò êïóìïõò,êáé íá ìçí ìðïñåé,ãéáôé äåí ìðïñåé íá öáíôáóôåé åíá ñïëïé ãéá 10'....

Ïôé áõôïò åéíáé ï ôñïðïò,åéíáé óéãïõñï..áëëá ïôé áí ðåôõ÷åéò ìéá óåéñá ðíåõìáôéêùí áóêçóåùí,èá âëåðåéò óáëáìáíäñåò...ðñåðåé íá ôï äù ãéá íá ôï ðéóôåøù...(ðáëé äéêçãïñïò ôïõ äéáâïëïõ)
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Áíèñùðïò ðïõ èåëåé íá ãíùñéóåé/åíùèåé ìå ôï èåéï ===> Ôïõ ðáñïõóéáæåôáé ôï èåéï (ÏÑÁÌÁ êëð)

áðï ôçí ëéãï ðéï "ðïíçñç" (ÁÐÏÊÑÕÖÉÓÔÉÊÇ):
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Ìõóôéêéóìüò=íá áéóèÜíåóáé, íá íéþèåéò, íá ãßíåóáé Ýíá. (Äéá ôçò åðáöÞò).
áðïêñõöéóìüò=íá êáôáëáâáßíåéò, íá áíáëýåéò, íá ãíùñßæåéò. (Äéá ôùí óõìâüëùí).
ÓÕÃ×ÑÏÍÏÓ.

Ñüäéíïò Óôáõñüò, ç Ýíùóç ôùí äýï óôçëþí.

    ¼ðùò ãñÜöåé ðáñáðÜíù êáé ç Rose_777,  "Ïé óõíáéóèçìáôéêïß ôýðïé, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé íá åêðáéäåõôïýí óôçí äéáíüçóç, êáé ïé äéáíïçôéêïß ôýðïé, óôçí øõ÷éêÞ åõáéóèçóßá".

    ÕðÜñ÷åé ìßá ëåðôïìÝñåéá ðïõ ï êáôåñãÜñçò ìÝóá ìáò ðñïóðáèåß íá áðïöýãåé. Ç áõôïãíùóßá êáé ç åîÝëéîç ðïõ åõáããåëßæåôáé, äýíáôáé íá åðéôåõ÷èåß ìüíï êáé ìüíï åÜí, ç áôñáðüò ðïõ áêïëïõèïýìå áóêåß ôïí ìõçìÝíï êáé óôïí ìõóôéêéóìü êáé óôïí áðïêñõöéóìü. Ó÷ïëÞ åóùôåñéêÞ, ôÜãìá Þ ïðïéáäÞðïôå ïìÜäá ðïõ õðüó÷åôáé áõôïãíùóßá, áëëÜ Ý÷åé åðéëÝîåé ìüíïí ìõóôéêéóìü Þ ìüíïí áðïêñõöéóìü, åßíáé âÝâáéï üôé ðáñáðëáíÜ.
    
    Ôï æçôïýìåíï êáé ôï áðáñáßôçôï ãéá áõôïãíùóéáêÞ ðñüïäï åßíáé ç êáôáíüçóç. ¢ñéóôç ãíþóç ìüíïí ðëçñïöïñéþí, ìðïñåß íá åðéöÝñåé ðïëõìÜèåéá, áëëÜ ü÷é óïößá. Ðïëý åýêïëá üìùò êáôáëÞãåé óôïí áãíùóôéêéóìü êáé óôïí óôåßñï õëéóìü. Áðü ôçí Üëëç, Üóêçóç óå ìõóôéêéóôéêÝò ðñáêôéêÝò, ìðïñåß íá áõîÜíåé ôéò ðáñáøõ÷ïëïãéêÝò éêáíüôçôåò, ìðïñåß íá äçìéïõñãåß äéÜìåóá, øõ÷ïêéíçôéêïýò êëð, üìùò äåí äçìéïõñãåß óïöïýò. Ðïëý åýêïëá üìùò äçìéïõñãåß áöåëåßò êáé áêñáßïõò äïãìáôéêïýò, åíßïôå äå ôóáñëáôÜíïõò éäéïôåëåßò åêìåôáëëåõôÝò.

    Åêåßíï ðïõ åßíáé áðáñáßôçôï, åßíáé ï óõíäõáóìüò ôùí äýï ôñüðùí "ãíþóçò" êáé ôïõ íïçôéêïý êáé ôïõ áéóèáíôéêïý. ¼ðïéïò äåí Ý÷åé ïóöñéóôåß Ýíá åîùôéêü Üñùìá, äåí äýíáôáé íá êáôáíïÞóåé, áêüìá êáé ìå ôéò êáëýôåñåò ðåñéãñáöÝò, ôçí ìõñïõäéÜ ôïõ. Ï éáôñüò ðïõ ãíùñßæåé Üñéóôá ôçí áññþóôéá ìÝóá áðü ôá éáôñéêÜ åã÷åéñßäéá, äõóôõ÷þò äåí ìðïñåß íá ôçí êáôáíïÞóåé, áí äåí Ý÷åé áóèåíÞóåé ï ßäéïò.

    Ç ðëçñïöïñßá ïäçãåß óôçí êáôáíüçóç, åöüóïí üìùò óõíïäåýåôáé êáé áðü ôçí åìðåéñßá. Ç áßóèçóç ïäçãåß óôçí êáôáíüçóç, åöüóïí õðÜñ÷åé ç êáôÜëëçëç ðëçñïöïñßá ãéá íá áíáëõèåß. ÊõñéïëåêôéêÜ ç ãíþóç ãéá íá áðïôõðùèåß ìÝóá ìáò, ÷ñåéÜæåôáé åíÝñãåéá êáé ç åíÝñãåéá áõôÞ åßíáé ç óõíáéóèçìáôéêÞ êáé áõôÞ åêëýåôáé êáôÜ êáíüíá áðü ôï ðñïóùðéêü âßùìá.

    Óõìðåñáóìá: Ïé ðïíçñïß ðïõ ôïõò îåìðñüóôéáóå ï ößëïò ìáò etidorhpa, ðëáíþíôáé ðëÜíçí ïéêôñÜí áí íïìßæïõí üôé ìå ôåìðÝëéêåò ðñáêôéêÝò èá Ý÷ïõí Ýóôù êáé åëÜ÷éóôç ðñüïäï óôçí áõôïãíùóßá.

[etidorhpa]

Áãáðçôå Ïñöåá,ìáëëïí äçìïóéåõóáìå ôçí ôåëåõôáéá óôéãìç...
áí èåëåéò ñé÷íåéò ìéá ìáôéá óôçí áðáíôçóç ðáñáðáíù..

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[ÏñöÝáò]

Ïôé áõôïò åéíáé ï ôñïðïò,åéíáé óéãïõñï..áëëá ïôé áí ðåôõ÷åéò ìéá óåéñá ðíåõìáôéêùí áóêçóåùí,èá âëåðåéò óáëáìáíäñåò...ðñåðåé íá ôï äù ãéá íá ôï ðéóôåøù...(ðáëé äéêçãïñïò ôïõ äéáâïëïõ)
Ïðïôå áò áñ÷éóù ôéò áóêçóåéò....

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    Ôï áãáðçìÝíï ìïõ ñçôü åßíáé, "ÌÅÌÍÇÓÏ ÁÐÉÓÔÅÉÍ" (íá èõìÜóáé íá áìöéâÜëëåéò).

Ðñéí êáéñü óõæçôïýóáìå ìå ôïí "ÊáíÝíáò" ðïõ åßíáé êáé ï ôå÷íéêüò ôïõ öüñïõì. Ìåôáðôõ÷éáêü óôïõò õðïëïãéóôÝò, öáíôÜæåóèå ðüóï ïñèïëïãéóôÞò åßíáé. Óõæçôïýóáìå ãéá ôçí ôçëåêßíçóç êáé öõóéêÜ áìöÝâáëëå ìÝ÷ñé óçìåßïõ....âåâáéüôçôáò üôé Þôáí áäýíáôï êáé ìÜëëïí êÜðïéï ôñõê "Ýðáéæå".... Óõìöþíçóá ìáæß ôïõ üôé äåí ðñÝðåé íá ðéóôåýåé ôßðïôá áí äåí ôï áðïäåßîåé ìüíïò ôïõ, üóï âÝâáéá ãéá ôçí ôçëåêßíçóç, åßíáé åöéêôÞ ÷ùñßò íá áðáéôïýíôáé éäéáßôåñåò éêáíüôçôåò Þ ðïëý÷ñïíåò áóêÞóåéò. Ìå êïéôïýóå ìå ìéóü ìÜôé êáé öõóéêÜ ìïõ îáíáôüíéæå üôé áõôü áðïêëåßåôáé.
¸, ôüôå ôïõ åßðá, ðñïóðÜèçóå ìüíïò óïõ êáé èá äåéò üôé ãßíåôáé.
Áðïêëåßåôáé ìïõ ëÝåé, äåí ìðïñþ íá ôï êÜíù ðïôÝ.
¼÷é ðïôÝ, äåí ðñüêåéôáé íá ôï ðåôý÷åéò, ôïõ ëÝù, áëëÜ Üìá Ý÷åéò äéÜèåóç êáé èÝëçóç, óÞìåñá ìðïñåßò.

¸êáíå ôçí Üóêçóç êáé äýï ôï ðñùß ôçëåöþíçóå êáôåíèïõóéáóìÝíïò. ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ, ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ !!!!

Å, ìåôÜ áðü ëßãé êáéñü ìáò Ýêáíå åðéäåßîåéò ôçëåêßíçóçò (áí êáé ðïôÝ äåí êáôÜöåñå íá ôçëå-óçêþóåé êáìéÜ ....öïýóôá !!!!)

    Åìåßò äåí åßìáóôå ïðáäïß ôïõ "ìç éäüíôåò êáé ðéóôåýóáíôåò", áëëÜ, ôïõ åñåõíþíôåò, áìöéóâçôþíôåò êáé ìüíïí "ãíþóïíôåò ðéóôåýóáíôåò"

[etidorhpa]

??!!
(sorry about the greeklish.. )

adelfe Orfea,sigoura me tin apantisi ayti,tin perimeneis tin erwtisi...

ASKHSH?? POIA ASKHSH??

DEN XERW AN MPOREI NA EIPW8EI STO FORUM...PANTWS 8A HTAN KALO...

(ELPIZW NA MHN EINAI AYTH ME THN KARFITSA STO NERO...THN PROSPA8OYSA PALIA,ALLA DEN 8YMAMAI NA EIXA KATAFEREI KATI...


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[Rose]

(ELPIZW NA MHN EINAI AYTH ME THN KARFITSA STO NERO...THN PROSPA8OYSA PALIA,ALLA DEN 8YMAMAI NA EIXA KATAFEREI KATI...

Äåí Þôáí êáñößôóá, ìðÜëá ôïõ ðéíãê - ðïíãê Þôáíå.  Êáé åãþ äåí ôá êáôÜöåñá áêüìá, óôçí ôçëåêßíçóç, åðåéäÞ äåí Ý÷ù õðïìïíÞ... ãéá ôÝôïéåò áóêÞóåéò... ÅîáóêÞèçêá üìùò óôçí øõ÷éêÞ åðéêïéíùíßá, êáé óôçí èåñáðåõôéêÞ...  Ï êáèÝíáò Ý÷åé ôïí ôïìÝá ôïõ, áëëÜ ãåíéêÝò ãíþóåéò åßíáé óçìáíôéêü íá ôéò êáôÝ÷ïõí üëïé...

[ÊáíÝíáò]

¸êáíå ôçí Üóêçóç êáé äýï ôï ðñùß ôçëåöþíçóå êáôåíèïõóéáóìÝíïò. ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ, ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ !!!!

Á÷, ôé ìïõ èýìéóåò.  Äå óå ðÞñá üìùò îçìåñþìáôá íá óå îõðíÞóù.  ¸óôåéëá SMS.  Ôçí Üëëç çìÝñá ôï ðñùß ôá åßðáìå. 

¼ôáí âåâáéþèçêá ôçí ðñþôç çìÝñá, óôéò 3/5/2005, üôé ôï ðåßñáìá ôçò ôçëåêßíçóçò ðÝôõ÷å, áðü ôç ÷áñÜ ìïõ ðçäïýóá ðÜíù êÜôù óå üëï ôï äùìÜôéï åðß 5 ëåðôÜ.  Óáí ôï Bugs Bunny Þìïõíá:  "ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ, ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ".... Bing.....Bing.....Bing....."ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ"....

Ôüôå ðïõ Þôáí áñ÷Þ, êáôÝãñáöá ôéò åðéôõ÷ßåò óå øõ÷éêÜ öáéíüìåíá (ôþñá ðéá ôá èåùñþ ðïëý öõóéïëïãéêÜ ãéá íá ôá êáôáãñÜöù üëá).  ÐáñáèÝôù ëïéðüí åäþ áðü ôï ðñïóùðéêü ìïõ çìåñïëüãéï.  Äõóôõ÷þò åßíáé óôá ÁããëéêÜ .....


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28/4/2005
Telekinesis.  Orfeas says I rotated a piece of paper on my first try.  I was not sure though.
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3/5/2005
Telekinesis.  The last 1-2 days I tried to move the flame of a candle. Fire is supposed to be very easy to move, because it is etheric. No success. They told me that heat dissipates the energy.

Then I tried with a ping pong ball, inside a large plastic container (15x27 cm), full of water. I had success there.

I stand in front of the plate, so the plate is in front of my navel or chest. I place my hands at the sides of the plate, so that the ball is between my palms. I charge my hands and send energy between them. The ball moves towards my body (I have to move my hands closer and follow the ball). It takes about 60'' for the ball to move 20-25 cm and hit the edge of the plate, close to my body.

I tried the experiment several times. I also let the ball many times move by itself, before I concluded that the experiment was successful.

I tried to affect the ball by sending energy with my fingers or the hand chakra. I think the hand chakra worked, but it was a weaker technique.

I tried to move it purely with the energy from my solar plexus. I think I was successful there.

I have a feeling that the ball is pulled to my body by the solar plexus and the field created by my palms just enhances the energy.
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3/5/2005
I have been doing the energy exercises, holding gold on my right hand since 25/4/2005.  Today I think I noticed my solar charka to heat up.
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4/5/2005
I became sick (gastrenderitida). 
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9/5/05
Repeated Telekinisis with absolute success.  Ping pong ball.
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11/5/2005
Telekinisis : The last few days I had a container of water in the kitchen and a ping pong ball in it.  Tried Telekinesis a few times a day.  Today It was impossible to move the ball.  The reason is the water became bad.  When I changed it with fresh water, the ball responded immediately.
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14/5/2005
Telekinisis : Moved the ping pong ball without using my hands magnetism, purely from the solar plexus.
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18/5/2005
When sending energy from the solar plexus, my left hand tingles, but my right hand shakes from the wrist down.  (Orfeas says that my nervous system is becoming sensitive.)
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12/6/2005
Telekinesis:  Moved the ball, without energy, without visualization.  I just used my Will.  I pointed my finger to the destination (close to my body) and kept giving the command “come, I command you to come” etc.  [Ðïëý ãñÞãïñá äéÝíõå ôç ìéóÞ áðüóôáóç, ìåôÜ äýóêïëá ôï õðüëïéðï.]    But I think I felt energy at my palms.  I remember I was feeling energy in my palms when I was doing pure visualization+will.


ÕÃ : ".... Bing.....Bing.....Bing....." óçìáßíåé "ÐÞäçìá.....ÐÞäçìá.....ÐÞäçìá....."

[Rose]

Óáí ôï Bugs Bunny Þìïõíá:  "ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ, ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ".... Bing.....Bing.....Bing....."ÔÏ ÊÁÔÁÖÅÑÁ"....

Äåí åßíáé êáé ìéêñü ðñÜãìá áõôü ðïõ êáôÜöåñåò... Ïé ðåñéóóüôåñïé Üíèñùðïé èåùñïýí ôçí Ôçëåêßíçóç, áäýíáôç... Äåí Ý÷ïõìå üëïé ìáò ôçí äéêÞ óïõ õðïìïíÞ íá ôá êáôáöÝñïõìå... Óõã÷áñçôÞñéá...